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Boris Johnson and the cabinet of curiosities Thread 8

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InMySpareTime · 02/07/2022 06:47

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Notonthestairs · 06/07/2022 17:25

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:20

About the latest allegations against Chris Pincher - I think Conservative MP Sarah Dines will have to go. It has been revealed she was asked the victim, when questioning him, whether he is gay and, when he said he is, she said that was 'a problem'. This was in front of witnesses. Nice bit of victim-blaming there from Miss Dines.

Yes - that was dreadful.

Notonthestairs · 06/07/2022 17:28

Truss must have been thrilled to be able to stay out of today's shitshow. Wonder when that Indonesian trip was booked!

tobee · 06/07/2022 17:30

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:20

About the latest allegations against Chris Pincher - I think Conservative MP Sarah Dines will have to go. It has been revealed she was asked the victim, when questioning him, whether he is gay and, when he said he is, she said that was 'a problem'. This was in front of witnesses. Nice bit of victim-blaming there from Miss Dines.

Shocking in 2022

cakeorwine · 06/07/2022 17:38

Nadine Dorries just gone in. Wonder why?

Igotjelly · 06/07/2022 17:39

cakeorwine · 06/07/2022 17:38

Nadine Dorries just gone in. Wonder why?

She’s probably lost.

itsgettingweird · 06/07/2022 17:40

Beth Rigby said if she's joining them she'll be heartbroken as they are "very close"

mbosnz · 06/07/2022 17:41

So, do we think Boris is circling the block, gibbering to himself, or down the pub, seeking dutch courage? (After all he can hold his drink. . .)

Cornettoninja · 06/07/2022 17:42

mbosnz · 06/07/2022 17:41

So, do we think Boris is circling the block, gibbering to himself, or down the pub, seeking dutch courage? (After all he can hold his drink. . .)

Probably on the way to chequers

tobee · 06/07/2022 17:43

Hiding

tobee · 06/07/2022 17:45

If I was him I'd fly off to Lebedev Italian castle in a private jet. Liaise with his violinist?

cakeorwine · 06/07/2022 17:49

Nadine Dorries - walking into Number 10 - says she thinks Boris Johnson should remain Prime Minister

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:50

It seems that Sarah Dines voted for Boris Johnson in the VONC and was a shoe-in for a retiring MP in a safe Tory seat.

The Telegraph:
A Conservative whip has been criticised by her own MPs for questioning the sexuality of an alleged victim of Chris Pincher after a reported incident last week.
Sarah Dines, an assistant government whip, was present at the Carlton Club last Wednesday where Mr Pincher has been accused of drunkenly groping two men.
Ms Dines, the MP for Derbyshire Dales, was approached by one of the individuals so he could report what he claimed had been inappropriate behaviour by the former deputy chief whip.
The alleged victim said he felt even worse after she proceeded to ask whether or not he was gay, and reportedly added “that doesn’t make it straightforward”.
‘She saw everything’
“I was a bit taken aback by that and said ‘what’s that got to do with it?’ But yes, I am,” the man told The Sunday Times. “She saw everything, which is why I am so angry.”
One Conservative MP branded the comments “pretty horrendous”, telling The Telegraph: “If it wasn’t a man attacking another man, it would never have been said.”
A second, senior Tory added: “Sexual assault is unauthorised and unwanted touching - it doesn’t matter matter whether you are heterosexual or homosexual.”
The senior Tory added that any alleged victim should have the “right to object” and the accusations, if proven, would be unacceptable regardless of the sex of those involved.
A source close to Ms Dines clarified that she had asked the man a series of questions so she could better understand the situation and its context. They said it would not be appropriate to comment on individual conversations, but she took the matter extremely seriously and tried to establish if Mr Pincher knew the man already.

jgw1 · 06/07/2022 17:53

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:50

It seems that Sarah Dines voted for Boris Johnson in the VONC and was a shoe-in for a retiring MP in a safe Tory seat.

The Telegraph:
A Conservative whip has been criticised by her own MPs for questioning the sexuality of an alleged victim of Chris Pincher after a reported incident last week.
Sarah Dines, an assistant government whip, was present at the Carlton Club last Wednesday where Mr Pincher has been accused of drunkenly groping two men.
Ms Dines, the MP for Derbyshire Dales, was approached by one of the individuals so he could report what he claimed had been inappropriate behaviour by the former deputy chief whip.
The alleged victim said he felt even worse after she proceeded to ask whether or not he was gay, and reportedly added “that doesn’t make it straightforward”.
‘She saw everything’
“I was a bit taken aback by that and said ‘what’s that got to do with it?’ But yes, I am,” the man told The Sunday Times. “She saw everything, which is why I am so angry.”
One Conservative MP branded the comments “pretty horrendous”, telling The Telegraph: “If it wasn’t a man attacking another man, it would never have been said.”
A second, senior Tory added: “Sexual assault is unauthorised and unwanted touching - it doesn’t matter matter whether you are heterosexual or homosexual.”
The senior Tory added that any alleged victim should have the “right to object” and the accusations, if proven, would be unacceptable regardless of the sex of those involved.
A source close to Ms Dines clarified that she had asked the man a series of questions so she could better understand the situation and its context. They said it would not be appropriate to comment on individual conversations, but she took the matter extremely seriously and tried to establish if Mr Pincher knew the man already.

Are we saying that in the Tory party if you know someone it is ok to grope them?

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:54

BJ is in No 10 - he went in the back way to avoid the press.

Igotjelly · 06/07/2022 17:55

😂

Boris Johnson and the cabinet of curiosities Thread 8
HannahSternDefoe · 06/07/2022 17:58

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 17:54

BJ is in No 10 - he went in the back way to avoid the press.

It's not like Boris to use the rear entrance...

tobee · 06/07/2022 17:58

Wish the MPs etc would say re the mandate "you're not a president. This isn't a presidential system"

Notonthestairs · 06/07/2022 17:59

Gah. This is what makes me angry - MP told he was talking nonsense for suggesting Johnson met with Lebedev alone.

Absolute barefaced liars.

twitter.com/justinmadders/status/1544702539546955777?s=21&t=3meeUxYLbzeS6mKjfErhNw

guinnessguzzler · 06/07/2022 18:04

Why did I have to have so many meetings today?! Just catching up again! When does the countdown start? Reckon it'll be this side of midnight now?

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 18:05

jgw1 · 06/07/2022 17:53

Are we saying that in the Tory party if you know someone it is ok to grope them?

Also that the victim's sexuality is relevant in a sexual assault.

It seems that Sarah Dines is an experienced Family Law Barrister - must be useful to BJ to have one of those in his pocket.

Notonthestairs · 06/07/2022 18:05

Steven Swinford of the Times suggesting there are two groups in Number 10 - on trying to persuade him to go, the other arguing it will lead to a GE. I think we can guess which group Dorries is in.

twitter.com/steven_swinford/status/1544728307895341056?s=21&t=3meeUxYLbzeS6mKjfErhNw

jgw1 · 06/07/2022 18:07

WaitroseWoman · 06/07/2022 18:05

Also that the victim's sexuality is relevant in a sexual assault.

It seems that Sarah Dines is an experienced Family Law Barrister - must be useful to BJ to have one of those in his pocket.

Ah, so perhaps it is only ok to sexually assault gay men if you are also a gay man?

Should never have let gays into the party.

tobee · 06/07/2022 18:09

Notonthestairs · 06/07/2022 18:05

Steven Swinford of the Times suggesting there are two groups in Number 10 - on trying to persuade him to go, the other arguing it will lead to a GE. I think we can guess which group Dorries is in.

twitter.com/steven_swinford/status/1544728307895341056?s=21&t=3meeUxYLbzeS6mKjfErhNw

Wonder if, at key points, they're running across from one room to another. Sort of like we did in Brownie games.

tobee · 06/07/2022 18:12

Chris Bryant on sky saying worried that Johnson talking about mandate as if presidential

tobee · 06/07/2022 18:12

Finally

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