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The "Wagatha Christie" Coleen Rooney/ Rebekah Vardy court case

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Iwantacatnotcovid · 08/02/2022 20:46

Is anyone else following it? Grin

Vardy's phone was accidentally dropped into the North Sea... Yeah right!

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user1471543094 · 17/05/2022 15:29

Wayne says in court that he spoke to Jamie Vardy about RV in 2016 during a tournament about RV's "media activities".

JV then gives statement outside the court that this isn't the case. Is this allowed? Should he not be called as a witness then and say it in the box? What is the point of this statement? Can't be used by the Judge I assume, so now they are just releasing statements outside the court for the media?

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 17/05/2022 15:29

I'm loving Jamie Vardy appearing outside Court to say that Wayne Rooney definitely didn't have a conversation with him about his wife's media antics because he and RV "discuss everything" and if that conversation had taken place he'd have told her. Two questions (i) if that's the case, why isn't he saying it under oath? and (ii) is he too stupid to realise that is also an unspoken element of this case - that he was telling his wife everything that has gone on in various dressing rooms and she's passed it on to her media contacts? Hence why his messages being lost is also super suspicious?

Honestly, I'm way too interested in this case but it does seem to me that whatever way this ends, Colleen Rooney has won - RV has been exposed for what and who she is.

user1471543094 · 17/05/2022 16:15

And now the Vardy's have left early again!

ImAvingOops · 17/05/2022 16:53

Unless someone is dying, leaving early is really taking the piss out of the court. I wonder why the judge is allowing it.
I also thought people involved in the case weren't allowed to comment publicly while it's ongoing.

TigerLilyTail · 17/05/2022 17:06

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the Judge's house.

I can't even imagine what she thinks about it all.

Zippidy123 · 17/05/2022 17:07

Does anyone know when this is due to finish? I can't believe how long it's taking. I was on the jury of a rape trial that lasted a grand total of 4 days!

TigerLilyTail · 17/05/2022 17:12

They're supposed to wrap everything up tomorrow (Wednesday).

Not sure if the verdict come straight away or not.

friendlycat · 17/05/2022 17:22

I'm not surprised RV and JV left early. She's no doubt feeling sick to her stomach knowing that she's brought all of this on herself. The idea of then having to sit through data experts discussing the deletion of evidence was no doubt too much for her.

Surprised by JV's comment outside court as surely that's not allowed either?

She really has been an absolute muppet bringing this case to court. JV was already the victim of football chanting about his wife being a "grass" (that I don't condone in the slightest) and just imagine how much worse it's going to be after this.

His footballing days must be nearing an end at 35 and to waste money that won't be coming in at the same rate in the future, plus to potentially jeopardise his selection within the team due to chanting and distraction is beyond madness of his wife. Let alone the damage she has done to herself.

Not only has she severely damaged her own reputation socially, professionally and all ways round but the knock on effect for her husband is also questionable.

CR has demonstrated a clear and calm head throughout, whatever the outcome. RV has demonstrated that she's just a nasty piece of work with a foul mouth and prepared to sell anyone out for a fee from The Sun. Just imagine what this case would have actually been like if all the data had not been "lost"?! It's still been highly damaging with the limited amount that has come to light.

It's been highly entertaining I must admit, but her credibility is now on the floor. There is absolutely no way that she can redeem herself after this even if the judge rules, by technicality, that CR cannot absolutely prove that RV was responsible for leaking these stories.

RV has scored the biggest own goal ever.

Candleabra · 17/05/2022 17:30

It’s a shame that RV will probably win on a technicality when she has been shown in such a poor light. And all you need to do is “lose” all the evidence and deny everything to build a concrete case.
I hope they find in favour of Colleen.
Either way, expect a full 8 pages in hello of “my courtroom hell” from RV.

Grrrpredictivetex · 17/05/2022 17:30

Every time I see JV I also see this

The "Wagatha Christie" Coleen Rooney/ Rebekah Vardy court case
The "Wagatha Christie" Coleen Rooney/ Rebekah Vardy court case
Spudlet · 17/05/2022 17:35

It seems crazy that RV can have been allowed to just ‘lose’ evidence in this way with no apparent consequences (yet). The testimony of the IT expert seems to have been pretty damning today - did RV call her own IT expert as a witness?

Gymnopedie · 17/05/2022 19:59

did RV call her own IT expert as a witness?

She did, but she might now be wishing she hadn't. From the BBC website:

Technical expert Ian Henderson, instructed by Mrs Vardy, told the court late on Tuesday he found it "surprising" there was an "absence" of WhatsApp messages between her and her agent Caroline Watt after the former tried to export messages from her device to her solicitors.

It's hardly unswerving support for his client is it?

Candleabra · 17/05/2022 21:25

It certainly isn’t. If that’s the best thing he can say then it’s very telling,

QuebecBagnet · 17/05/2022 21:54

I suppose (might be wrong) the reason why RV doesn’t have to call other witnesses who she says she thinks may be responsible for the leaks is because the case isn’t about finding out who did the leaks. RV just needs to demonstrate CR can’t prove it was RV. Though guess it would have been a better case for RV if she could have paid/persuaded her agent to stand up and confess to it! Telling that that hasn’t happened.

Candleabra · 17/05/2022 22:12

I’m sure it’s been explained already but I don’t understand why the burden of proof is on Coleen if RV took her to court. I always thought it was up to the complainant to prove their case.

ImAvingOops · 17/05/2022 22:17

Even if Vardy could produce witnesses who admitted to having access to her account, they aren't going to say they leaked stories without her knowledge or approval. Why would they? Whichever way she moves, she just digs herself in deeper.

ImAvingOops · 17/05/2022 22:20

Presumably the agent wants to work again. Her career is in the toilet too after these texts have come out. She can't say that she leaked stories without Vardy's knowledge - who would ever work with her again?

Spudlet · 18/05/2022 06:59

RV must have a screw loose to have brought this case, honestly. What was she thinking?! Regardless of whether she wins or loses, she just looks terrible - all those horrible texts, and witnesses saying that she worked with paps and all of it, really. She just looks like a fame-hungry mean girl.

Even if CR loses, at worst she looks like someone who was too hasty to make accusations, and went down the ‘drama!’ route to deal with a problem, but honestly not much worse than that I think. And given how much money her husband is worth, they can afford to lose.

@Gymnopedie No, it’s not exactly glowing testimony, is it?!

MichaelAndEagle · 18/05/2022 06:59

Candleabra · 17/05/2022 22:12

I’m sure it’s been explained already but I don’t understand why the burden of proof is on Coleen if RV took her to court. I always thought it was up to the complainant to prove their case.

Its because Colleen's defence is that it isn't libel because what she said is true.
So if she can prove its true, she's not guilty of libel.

PortiaFimbriata · 18/05/2022 08:07

Candleabra · 17/05/2022 22:12

I’m sure it’s been explained already but I don’t understand why the burden of proof is on Coleen if RV took her to court. I always thought it was up to the complainant to prove their case.

To claim for libel Vardy has to demonstrate that:
CR published the words
The words would damage RV's reputation

RV has basically done her side (if you accept that she had a reputation worth defending)

So CR is claiming in her defence that what she says is true and she has to prove that on the balance of probabilities.

If it didn't work that way round than anyone could say anything about anybody - I could accuse David Attenborough of kicking kittens behind closed doors and he'd have to prove he didn't. Likewise in a criminal trial if you say "yes I did it but it was self defence", you have to prove that it was self defence , the prosecution doesn't have to prove that the victim didn't attack you.

PortiaFimbriata · 18/05/2022 08:08

Can anyone explain what the point was of Wayne's appearance? What was his evidence meant to prove?

Crazykatie · 18/05/2022 08:16

I had a good laugh at a joke on Facebook this morning,
If their husbands weren’t millionaires this dispute would have been settled outside a club at 2am, fighting until a boob fell out!.

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 18/05/2022 08:24

PortiaFimbriata · 18/05/2022 08:08

Can anyone explain what the point was of Wayne's appearance? What was his evidence meant to prove?

I'm guessing it was meant to prove that RV's links with the media, specifically The Sun, are longstanding (as the England team management wanted her to "calm down" her column in The Sun).

Candleabra · 18/05/2022 08:28

MichaelAndEagle · 18/05/2022 06:59

Its because Colleen's defence is that it isn't libel because what she said is true.
So if she can prove its true, she's not guilty of libel.

I see.
So the evidence for Colleen to prove this has been lost. RV has denied everything. And the agent is too unwell to take part in the trial.

Is there a point where the balance of probabilities takes over for Colleen? So the judge decides that the steps RV has seemingly taken to avoid any evidence being brought to light constitutes guilt?

ImAvingOops · 18/05/2022 08:35

You'd think so, wouldn't you? Hard to prove a case with loads of evidence missing.
I don't know how Vardy can claim that her reputation has been damaged by CR's words, given how she's been behaving.
I bet that FA official loved giving evidence about how Vardy wouldn't move seats and how her guests spoke to her - revenge is a dish best served cold!

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