The "Wagatha Christie" Coleen Rooney/ Rebekah Vardy court case

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Is anyone else following it?

Vardy's phone was accidentally dropped into the North Sea... Yeah right!

I don't understand why Vardy didn't just respond to Coleen's insta post, saying that a few people had access to her account, and that she would investigate what's been happening, and apologise for any hurt caused.

We'd have all forgotten about it, and in time Rebecca would have been forgiven. She has done much more damage to her reputation, and bank account, by suing Coleen, than the actual selling of stories in first place.

She should never have sued, especially when she clearly isn't squeaky clean.

Evidently, she is not that bright!

Well, Caroline Watt was called as a witness but she got a medical exemption.

I think there were WhatsApp messages saying that they would say RV left her account logged on at her old agent so they could say someone there may have logged on and leaked the stories. I think RV is now saying that CW leaked the stories but RV didn’t know about it. She’s claiming she didn’t read the messages about this, even the ones she sent! 😂

I actually knew a girl like this at school who would never admit she was wrong and would just argue and argue her point no matter how ridiculous her arguments got.

I don't get why the judge ruled that CR has to prove it was specifically RV - Rooney said it was her account (and while I think that the owner should be held accountable for what their employees post on their behalf) and that should be good enough - I don't think Rooney should be responsible for how people interpret her words.
I thought law was about what is specifically written

It’s to do with how the average person would interpret the words. There’s some old legal precident “man on the Clapham omnibus’ or something like that

Found the definition “The man on the Clapham omnibus is a hypothetical ordinary and reasonable person, used by the courts in English law where it is necessary to decide whether a party has acted as a reasonable person would – for example, in a civil action for negligence. The character is a reasonably educated, intelligent but nondescript person, against whom the defendant's conduct can be measured”

do they are saying that CR saying “Rebecca Vardys account” would be taken by most as meaning “Rebecca vardy” rather than the literal meaning

Most ordinary people would also assume that celebrities are responsible for what their employees write on their behalf. So whether an employee posted with full consent of the employer or the employer 'only' failed to put a stop to it, the buck stops with them!

I can't see that CR did anything wrong in saying what she did. I don't know why any celebrity would consider it acceptable behaviour to sell stories about other celebrities - that RV has done this to people like Peter Andre and her husband's teammates tells you everything you need to know about her!
Even if she wins she loses.

Even if she wins she loses.

This sums it up. RV has shown herself to be a nasty dimwit. I hope that if she wins on a technicality the judge awards her 1p in damages to cover the harm caused to her terrible reputation.

Their faces are so unnatural. An advert for not getting botox or fillers!

Just seen the photos of them entering court. Is it terrible that I thought Jamie Vardy looked rather sexy in a suit.

I personally think that a person is ultimately responsible for their own social media accounts. So, if RV gave someone her password and they looked at other people’s private accounts and sold stories about them even without RV’s knowledge, I still think RV is responsible, but the judge didn’t agree. I think most celebs have a personal and a public account. I can see why RV would give her agent the password to her public account but I can’t see why her agent would need access to her private account other than for snooping.

Would be best if they both put their energy and resources into their family lives rather than tit for tat. Their children can read all of this. How sad.

I would imagine it's quite stressful for family life not knowing who you can trust and being afraid to talk to people you consider friends, in case it ends up in the papers. Most people would want to get up the bottom of it if it was happening to us.
CR can't drop this since she is the one being sued and to stop would mean conceding to Vardy. If I was Coleen and had read that text about using my dead sister, hell would freeze over before I didn't see this through to the end.

Their children can also read the leaked stories in national newspapers and maybe that's why CR would have liked it stopped.

Thank God it wasn't just me!!
Only admitting this on an anonymous forum though - would never say it in real life!

As per PP explanation, but it was actually the subject of a pre trial hearing in front of a judge who ruled that ‘most people’ would interpret RV’s account to specifically mean RV personally. I disagree, but that was the ruling.

I think CR would rather be anywhere than having details of her private life aired in court. I can't fathom why RV ever thought going to court was a good idea? Did she think CR would settle out of court I wonder. It all sounds so cringe for RV, the Peter Andre comment, the nasty WhatsApp messages, the laughable excuse of phones being dropped in the sea, the agent unable to appear in court.... RV must rue the day she decided to persue this case.

I think what makes him sexier is that the court case is no doubt causing embarrassment, and losing him serious money, but he is holding her hand and supporting her.

I posted earlier saying the same thing, that I thought the ruling was perverse.

The other thing is going to be about the relationship between RV and her 'agent'. If the agent was regularly acting on behalf of RV, without necessarily running everything past her, then I would have thought that CR's team would be able to rely on the law of agent/principal:

The general rule is that the principal is vicariously liable for the wrongful acts of the agent committed within the scope of the agent’s apparent authority.

It seems like a lot for Coleen to prove: The said it was Vardy's account. Judge says no. (Ridiculous ruling from Judge. If its your account you have responsibility for it. Everyone who had access was on Vardy payroll and buck stops with her)

But then she is faced with lost evidence, the agent not showing up to give evidence or be cross-examined, there's been no mention (as far as I can tell) of any one else having access to the account showing up to give evidence.
RV seems to just sayin "It wasn't me" and that's that.

Its like unless Coleen actually has a handwritten signed letter from Vardy to the Sun leaking the story then she can't win.

I hope I am wrong. If Vardy wins there's a lot of bad messages coming out of this.

Totally agree user. I think the judge should have found in favour of Rooney the minute it came out that the phone was 'lost' at sea and the computer got mysteriously wiped. How can Rooney reasonably be expected to prove her case when the evidence she was entitled to access has all been denied her?

Couldn't agree more. What about the fact RV is clearly lying in the witness box? Should there be no consequences of that? Or the fact that her and the agent are deleting evidence (to a trial that SHE has brought to court)? If she gets away with that, I dread to think what message this sends? Either way, if she wanted to "clear her name" she has done everything but. If anything, she is even more of a laughing stock now than she was before. I don't think I'd ever be able to get over the shame. I feel so embarrassed for her.

This has been puzzling me too. Why didn't Vardy's barrister give her the opportunity to say who she thought was behind the leak? Alternatively, why didn't Rooney's barrister question her on the implausibility of it being anyone else?

I have a feeling that RV will always see herself as the victim in this. It doesn't make sense but that is how people like her see themselves. She won't take responsibility for her actions. If she wins, she will see it as a huge vindication, if she loses, she will see it as the court process being unfair and she was bullied by CR's lawyers.

I think Wayne Rooney has started his testimony. The court artist really hasn't done him any favours! 😂

What about the fact RV is clearly lying in the witness box? Should there be no consequences of that?

There are precedents for people found to be lying in a libel case to be tried for perjury - Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken spring to mind. Archer was particularly interesting because he won his libel case against the Daily Star but the perjury came to light years later.