Prince Andrew no surprise

[Pixxie7]

No surprise that the met have stopped. Their investigation into PA.

@Mybalconyiscracking

He is an arse, but the age of consent in this country is 16 and she was older, so he does not appear to have committed a crime under British law. What do you want the Met to do? I certainly think there are better things for them to be getting on with.

On every thread about Andrew this gets said.

The point is that Virginia Roberts Giuffre was trafficked.

Ghislaine Maxwell, good friend of Andrew, is finally up in court on trafficking charges next month in New York. She may well sing like a canary about the involvement of others, to reduce her sentence.

Why can't people just keep it in their trousers. What happened to decency and self respect.

Spindle

Whilst I agree that VR highly likely was trafficked. The reality is we can't and America can't judge on hear say. Its not as simple as she said so it must be true (or searching google)

I HOPE Ghislaine sings I really do. However unless they have some concrete proof from VR I cant see how they can convict PA at the moment its her word against his and whilst we may all believe her. We do need proof

So let's hope GM sings. If she doesn't i suspect PA will go clear like OJ did.

@Mybalconyiscracking

He is an arse, but the age of consent in this country is 16 and she was older, so he does not appear to have committed a crime under British law. What do you want the Met to do? I certainly think there are better things for them to be getting on with.

So if a 17 year old USA resident had consensual sex here, then is that legal if the age of consent at home is 18?

It's an age of consent for where you are?

(This is not a question about this case)

@HouseOfFire of course it's legal. You abide by the laws of the country you're in.

Laws apply where crimes are alleged to have been committed.

@Pixxie7

I have got the information through google.

Jesus.

Cressida Dick was at school with Ghislaine Maxwell, then at the same Oxford college. I don't think the Met were ever going to 'investigate' this too deeply.

@Mybalconyiscracking

He is an arse, but the age of consent in this country is 16 and she was older, so he does not appear to have committed a crime under British law. What do you want the Met to do? I certainly think there are better things for them to be getting on with.

I did wonder why they were going after him when she was 17 at the time, or am I missing something ?

@HouseOfFire

When I was at uni I had several American flatmates who were here for a semester or a year on exchange. Many of them came from states where the legal age to drink was 21. They thought it was amazing coming over to the UK as they could legally drink, even if it was then illegal when they got home again. I presume the principle applies to any aspect of law: it is legal in that country regardless of the origin of the person involved.

@Pythonista Other countries are available

Eh, not so much now really. You (collectively) voted against that, remember?

Sums it up really when people think you can build a case off google.

@Aspiringmatriarch

Cressida Dick was at school with Ghislaine Maxwell, then at the same Oxford college. I don't think the Met were ever going to 'investigate' this too deeply.

Really? Thats interesting Mind you Cressida Dick is hanging on by the skin of teeth at the moment.

@Pythonista other countries are available yes, but if everyone who is unhappy here since Brexit left, then there would be a big problem as most of them are the educated, public-spirited ones doing jobs like doctor, teacher etc...

They covered up for Saville (who had connections to royalty) for god knows how many years, so this one isn't going to come out in our lifetime.

What jurisdiction do the met have anyway, what were they investigating?

@Theunamedcat

OK? Considering the current climate could it be they haven't actually found anything?

They know there will be a public outcry they will get other people in to investigate the investigation so its in there interests to find the smoking gun if there is one

Perhaps *as creepy as he is) he is...innocent?

Exactly this. He could actually be innocent.

Not that MNs will ever conceive that.

MNs like the kangaroo courts where they vote a verdict without knowing full facts and only knowing what they press decide to disclose

@lnsufficientFuns

You can do what the fuck you like if you’re part of “the institution” They’re all untouchable There is so little accountability or shame or consequence.

Nothing ever gets challenged unless you’re female and wish to discuss, protect, or defend your rights not to be raped or murdered or otherwise diminished.

This is why women keep being treated like we are.

It’s exhausting.

And it’s disgusting to use publicly funded civil servants to dodge being served like we saw with that ridiculous cat n mouse sitch in August.

Pretty much this.

Although it’s usually a male sense of entitlement - actually you only need to look at the Queen and look at her ‘close friendships’ with Dubai rulers etc wonder what the hell our country is doing. The ruling class is still alive and kicking in 2021 we have to bow and scrap to someone just because of who there are. Harry earning millions for having no team talent or nothing worth while to say - just surrounded by people who think he is wonderful for being Royal. Why haven’t their titles gone yet? Why do they still have huge lands and the Duchy of Cornwall etc ? It’s really awful and needs a clean sweep.

What evidence is going to be around 20 years later. This is no surprise.

@Ricekake

What jurisdiction do the met have anyway, what were they investigating?

Goodness knows.

You'd hope it was the trafficking connection. Like I said before, things may come out in the Maxwell trial if she gets as far as testifying.

It's terrible that she was trafficked, but still doesn't change that UK law age of consent is 16.

Unless Virginia said No then technically PA broke no law (unless he specifically ordered and paid for a woman from Ghislaine)

As I understand it, the fact VG was classed as a minor, means she was still a minor over here. It's irrelevant what age over here is law.

Also, someone said...I wonder what the Met got from VG when they interviewed her.
They haven't. They've had no contact with her I read last night.

Of COURSE they will drop this, no surprise there.
But PA should not be complacent, VG is not giving up, quite rightly, for all trafficked young girls.

HalzTangz*
She was a trafficked minor. What age of consent over here is irrelevant

PA at least won't be able to set foot in the USA, which I think will annoy him, if nothing else.

unless he specifically ordered and paid for a woman from Ghislaine

No idea if he 'ordered' her or paid for her. She was a trafficked minor who was chosen by JE/GM as the right girl to have sex with PA.