Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Insta-Mum Drama

981 replies

rosybell · 06/11/2019 17:30

Is there already a thread about the instamum dramas involving MoD today?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
Skyejuly · 12/11/2019 06:47

I wish they would just delete and step away!

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 08:31

A lot of the comments on that post look a bit suspect.

“So true 🤣🤣”

“🤣🤣🤣”

“🤣🤣🙌🏼“

“So true”

Very odd behaviour.

BobbyNewport · 12/11/2019 08:43

@Tooearlyforcrackers they're obviously bots but all those comments will drown out any dissenting voices who are asking about Clemmie/slagging the ODs off.

I initially felt sorry for FOD, but that last post is pathetic. His claim that he just does IG for the lolz is garbage. He'll be back to shilling his kids in no time.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Sagradafamiliar · 12/11/2019 08:53

Bobby it shows how calculated he is. Said it was for fun and lo and behold his latest post is 'fun' and just for the shits and giggles to demonstrate how light hearted it all is!

RoseAdagio · 12/11/2019 09:04

Only just catching up on all this now! Social media is an echo chamber and evidently atm what is echoing around it is a load of farts.

I have to say I'm massively disappointed in MoD, I actually liked her and FoD. I'm not going to profess to be one of those people who "always thought she seemed like a bit of a bitch". He in particular always seemed really likeable to me. V disappointed, and if the comments on here about her posting crap on Tattle for ages before the negative posts about MoD and FoD are true, then that is worse.

I also feel VERY uncomfortable though with Candice's sex worker apology (which really is a separate, unrelated topic altogether), if she really was actually a pimp. Being a pimp is far worse than anything MoD has done tbh, and frankly if she IS an ex pimp then there's a good chance she IS quite an aggressive person, and as such it wouldn't be racist for MoD to call her as such....

Finally, I think Kelechi Okafor goes way too far in some of her comments too. I am REALLY uncomfortable with the inference for the fact that MoD is somehow complicit in, or responsible for, the fact that five times as many black women die in labour as white women in this country, which is obviously a shocking statistic. I think it's a leap of faith too far to infer that because she has accused a specific black woman of "playing the race card" too often and being aggressive, that a) she is inherently a racist through and through and b) this must extend to her carrying out her professional role in a neglectful manner by, in Kelechi's own words "not believing us [black women] about our own bodies". She has no experience or evidence of MoD's standard of care at work. V dodgy!

Let's be honest, nobody has come out of this well!

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 09:05

If they are bots I hope any brands take a good look at his account before dealing with him. I can’t believe he would pay for bots though after MoD’s credibility has been shredded. Seems a risky strategy when all eyes now on FOD?

HowlsMovingBungalow · 12/11/2019 09:06

It is all so very transparent, I feel for people that fall for these shit hawkers.

RexDangerVest · 12/11/2019 09:45

Anyway, I'm old and well past this nonsense.

  • a good way to be @Miljea!
BanKittenHeels · 12/11/2019 11:09

I doubt FOD or his management would pay for bots in the comments of that post. Bots are easily traceable and against Instagrams terms of service (leading to bans) and that could end up becoming a scandal of its own.

mustangsly · 12/11/2019 11:50

I don't think they're bots. They're just thickos.

BlackMUMba · 12/11/2019 12:06

@RoseAdagio If CB was in fact a "pimp" (who uses that term anymore) how do you that the women doing sex work were somehow in a worse position than what CH had said about her online?
Sex work is work.

I have spoken up thread about racism/racist ideologies/attitudes/behaviours etc and for some reason I don't think you get it. What is a "racist through and through" pray tell. Stop skirting around the issue and call it for what it is, racism.

CH is complicit by holding these views and then working in the very same medical field in which Black people are 5x more likely to die. This is dangerous. If you cannot see why then I would suggest reading up on it.

Like I said before, there are plenty of people on here and on SM (and outside of this) that refuse to read and educate themselves about the things Black/POC deal with on the daily, based solely on opinion. Opinions are not factual, real or relative to the truth

This goes to everyone on here, seriously do the work, black and brown people are tired of having to "debate" our lived experiences in the current climate based off of your own opinion(s).

BlackMUMba · 12/11/2019 12:09

If I knew someone held those views about Black women, do you think I'd ever consider having her as my midwife?!

Ponder that for a moment.

RoseAdagio · 12/11/2019 12:23

Isn't the statistic about black women being more likely to die in labour largely down to their increased likelihood of developing preeclampsia though? I still feel uncomfortable with the suggestion/inference that just because she called one specific black woman aggressive and prone to "playing the race card" that she is carrying out her professional duties in a way that is actively contributing to the higher death rates amongst black women, which very much appears to me to be what Kele is saying. Sorry, but that's too much.

Not in any way defending what MoD did, far from it. The bullying alone is highly problematic and imo needs reviewing by the NMC albeit I'm not sure it warrants permanent dismissal from the profession (a Male barrister recently got suspended for ten months for social media posts which were misogynistic and far for worse than what MoD has said).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, for me, I'd need to know a bit more about CB first to know if there was actually some truth in what MoD was saying before I decided she was racist for saying it. For all I know, maybe CB IS aggressive (and I know from professional experience that I shall not divulge here for numerous reasons that those involved in controlling prostitution often are aggressive people). I dont know enough to say whether that is the case either way and therefore for me its inconclusive whether MoD's comments about CB are actually racist or just poorly thought through....because to me, it could be either.

Hope that makes sense.

BanKittenHeels · 12/11/2019 12:27

Sex work is work.

Hmm
PinkJam · 12/11/2019 12:31

I have seen the tv show that C/B appeared on and she stated on there that she was a “pimp” and it is very disingenuous of her to make a big thing out of being involved in sex work leading everyone to believe she was a prostitute. Deliberately did not mention that she forced other women into sex work. This is out of her own mouth.

Solihooley · 12/11/2019 12:40

RoseAdagio I think it is relevant. It’s about people dismissing black womens voices/complaints/experiences with words like aggressive and ‘playing the whatever card ‘ blabla. Often BW are described as ‘aggressive’ and dismissed for demanding the same treatment that would be offered to WW without a thought. I think this was one of the factors that was widely discussed when the report came out. CB herself IIRC had a traumatic birth experience and infection and her concerns were dismissed by staff. It would greatly concern me to know a midwife had written what CH has, especially given the conversations she must have had with CB when she features her on her blog or whatever it was.

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 12:47

People hold all kind of prejudices. I haven’t seen anything that suggested MOD was anything other than a highly competent midwife.

Herland · 12/11/2019 13:02

Sex work is work.
No it's not. It's monetised rape. And anyone who makes a profit from controlling prostitution is a scumbag. White or black.

Herland · 12/11/2019 13:04

As a separate issue black women being told they are playing the race card is vile and minimises the experiences of black women. It is racist.

Pomegranatepompom · 12/11/2019 13:37

Highly competent? Self proclaimed? I haven't seem anything that suggests she is or isn't.

stupidis · 12/11/2019 13:38

Cash Carraway has tweeted that she's deleting Twitter

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 13:40

A few people have come onto the tattle threads and have been complimentary about her, same as the MN threads. I think if she was a bad midwife we would have heard about it. She’s been heavily criticised for lots of things (quite rightly) but I’ve never seen any criticism of the care she offers as a midwife. Please do show me if you have seen otherwise as I am happy to be corrected.

HowlsMovingBungalow · 12/11/2019 13:41

CC has just had a book released hasn't she? Guess she doesn't want the MOD shitshow following her around. They are all as bad as each other. Causing or whipping up dramas. Hmm

chicken2015 · 12/11/2019 13:53

I was on the threads first about instamum and how awful I found the whole thing and really detest the whole phenomenon! I dislike MOD for her being part of it however I'm confused as to why so many r saying how awful and racist she is. I'm guessing not everything she said on the tattle forum was what she truefully thought , she called her husband a class a t**t which I would guess she doesn't believe that! How do we know 1 she really believes CB is aggressive or 2 she met her and found her that way? She mentioned her using the race card , does that automatically mean anyone who mentioned someone doing that mean they r racist? I agree with what Rose has said

chicken2015 · 12/11/2019 13:55

On separate note about CB , she has deleted any mention of pimping on her comments section I guess pimping is not something she wants her fans to think she do which says a lot,

Swipe left for the next trending thread