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I walked away from it all, and then walked back

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 13:40

At 40 I resigned from my well paid job and decided to live my life prioritising happiness and wellbeing. 3 years later I returned to the rat race, disillusioned and poorer. AMA.

Im not sure this is of interest to anyone, but I’d certainly be interested in advice!

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TFImBackIn · 03/10/2026 13:50

What did you live on in those three years?

What did you learn about yourself?

Was it relatively easy to get back into work?

OriginalUsername2 · 03/10/2026 13:50

I’m interested!

What were you expecting to do and what was the reality that made you return?

TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 13:57

What did you live on in those three years?
I had lowered my outgoings by, eg, paying off my mortgage. (I had a London-based role on a London salary but live in Lincolnshire). Secondly, my lifestyle was pretty simple and inexpensive without work. Thirdly, initially I was able to do some pretty well paid consulting due to contacts I’d made in my career.

What did you learn about yourself?

Hmm. I learned I’m not very good at self promotion. I’m terrible at it.

Was it relatively easy to get back into work?

No, it was shockingly hard at first because I tried to get in to new sectors (eg social work). Eventually I went back to my old sector (education).

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EmeraldSlippers · 03/10/2026 13:58

Do you have a family or other financial obligations?
What made you choose your rat race job in the first place?
Did you have plans when you quit or just think 'fuck it, I'm done' and leave?

Freeme31 · 03/10/2026 14:02

Why did it not turn out the way you wanted? What could/should you have done differently?

TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 14:02

I’m interested!
What were you expecting to do and what was the reality that made you return?

Id read a lot about the philosophy and science of happiness, and the futility of looking to externalities for happiness. Initially I followed the advice I’d read about - spend time with loved ones, stay healthy, volunteer, spend time outdoors, meditate etc. I had an allotment, I ran a lot of voluntary projects etc. I’d hoped to be able to make a (small). living from those kinds of things.

Ultimately I couldn’t get things off the ground. It felt a closed shop. I was unsuccessful getting funding or employment. I also felt pretty written off as a middle aged woman. I felt very disillusioned. I decided if I was going to be unhappy I might as well be financially comfortable and unhappy.

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 14:16

Do you have a family or other financial obligations?

No, just some shared caring for an elderly relative but that’s been since I went back to full time work.

What made you choose your rat race job in the first place?

I fell in to it after Uni and was good at it.

Did you have plans when you quit or just think 'fuck it, I'm done' and leave?

I had a lot of the latter but ultimately got myself in a safe financial place before jumping.

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 14:22

Why did it not turn out the way you wanted? What could/should you have done differently?

I ultimately had the same problems -existential crisis and unhappy.

Not sure what I could have done differently. I threw a lot at making it work and trying different things. I should have persevered with my employers, but my new line manager was having her own problems and went off long term sick. I felt unappreciated and unsupported.
Im glad I tried and failed rather than not trying at all.

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MrsBatshitRatshit · 03/10/2026 14:52

Did you go back to work because you felt you lacked a sense of purpose, or just because you needed the money?

PoliteRaven · 03/10/2026 14:53

Aside from being good at your job - did / do you actively, unequivocally like any aspects of it? What is the balance of the things you like and dislike about it? Had your unhappiness got to the stage where it started to impact your physical health?

TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 16:15

Did you go back to work because you felt you lacked a sense of purpose, or just because you needed the money?

I wanted a regular income and was getting a bit worried about pensions and that kind of thing. But mainly I wasn’t much happier. So I decided I’d rather be “richer” and unhappy .

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StandingDeskDisco · 03/10/2026 16:32

What do you think would make you happy?

FinishedAtFifty · 03/10/2026 17:22

@TuneInTuneOut

i don’t have any advice but I really admire you. Even after having cancer I don’t have the courage to change my life. You were really brave.

EmeraldRoulette · 03/10/2026 18:37

I must admit, I wasn’t expecting this to be quite what it was from the title

So, is it fair to say you ran out of money in the sense that you weren’t completely broke but you didn’t have enough?

And then you didn’t find what you were looking for?

Because it sounds like a combination of those two factors. You say you had consultancy work so you did well in that respect.

what was it exactly that felt like a closed shop?
And were you not worried about pensions and things before you took this step?

That’s a lot of questions, but you did say AMA 😂

I’ve known some people who have given up the rat race to follow a dream career. I would say it hasn’t worked out for any of the people I’ve known.

TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 18:41

Aside from being good at your job - did / do you actively, unequivocally like any aspects of it? What is the balance of the things you like and dislike about it? Had your unhappiness got to the stage where it started to impact your physical health?

There are many aspects I appreciate - I like teaching, I like public service, I like supporting, advocating and mentoring. I get burnt out by the futility of some aspects of my role, poor management, the sheer toil of it job being harder than it need be. In my previous, well-paid role there was a lot of work from home (15 years) and a fair bit of travel, both of which I found quite isolating. It definitely took it's toll on my mental health, but not really my physical. What kind of impact are you thinking?

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 18:47

What do you think would make you happy?

I really don't know. I experience moments of joy such as a bite of lovely food or a hug from my niece or sitting in the sun and feeling the warmth on my skin. I understand what philosophies such as stoicism and Buddhism tell us about the internal nature of happiness. It's like rationally I understand, but emotionally I find it pretty elusive. I have always found it baffling how my neighbours seem to get up every day and go through the motions of taking the kids to school, going to work, going out to do the big shop... day in. day out.

i don’t have any advice but I really admire you. Even after having cancer I don’t have the courage to change my life. You were really brave.

That means so much to me. Thank you so much for telling me that, because I feel quite a failure and quite a coward.

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 18:56

So, is it fair to say you ran out of money in the sense that you weren’t completely broke but you didn’t have enough?

I could probably have gone on for a couple more years, but I like to have the security of savings because I have no one to fall back on. (I didn't have a partner at the time, never had a husband, will never inherit or anything like that. I've been financially independent since 16).

And then you didn’t find what you were looking for?

Yes, money was running out and I still wasn't happy.

Because it sounds like a combination of those two factors. You say you had consultancy work so you did well in that respect. what was it exactly that felt like a closed shop?*

The consultancy work started to dry up. That had a lot to do with covid but also because I was trying to get in to other work. I did eventually get a role in the new industry, but in my old role. I couldn't believe that it was very much a case of "who you know, not what you know" - a lot of jobs for mates, that kind of thing.

And were you not worried about pensions and things before you took this step?
No, not at all, because I knew the theory is that money doesn't bring happiness once a certain level of income is achieved.

I’ve known some people who have given up the rat race to follow a dream career. I would say it hasn’t worked out for any of the people I’ve known.

I think that this is why I feel a coward, I chickened out before going the full hog. I would love to run away to a different country and really do The Good Life (although I'm definitely not an off-gridder). I have recently sold my house though, so I guess that's still possible.

I must admit, I wasn’t expecting this to be quite what it was from the title

What were you expecting? :)

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Crushed23 · 03/10/2026 18:56

Well done for going after what you want in life, even if turned out to be not what you wanted. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

How long did it take you to get back into your career? Did you go back at the same level/pay that you left at? I’ve heard the job market is shocking right now.

Crushed23 · 03/10/2026 19:02

EmeraldRoulette · 03/10/2026 18:37

I must admit, I wasn’t expecting this to be quite what it was from the title

So, is it fair to say you ran out of money in the sense that you weren’t completely broke but you didn’t have enough?

And then you didn’t find what you were looking for?

Because it sounds like a combination of those two factors. You say you had consultancy work so you did well in that respect.

what was it exactly that felt like a closed shop?
And were you not worried about pensions and things before you took this step?

That’s a lot of questions, but you did say AMA 😂

I’ve known some people who have given up the rat race to follow a dream career. I would say it hasn’t worked out for any of the people I’ve known.

R.e. your last paragraph, I follow a lot of people on Instagram who have quit the rat race, and in 100% of cases, they have a partner or family financially supporting them. Sometimes they’re transparent about that e.g. “I moved back in with my parents”, other times they (purposely?) fail to mention that their spouse is an exceptionally well-paid lawyer, say.

There are early retirees and the whole FIRE movement, but they tend to be a little older, and are driven by money and simply not working at all, rather than in ‘finding themselves’, pursuing their ‘calling’, and what-have-you.

titchy · 03/10/2026 19:19

Hmmm forgive me if I’m talking out of turn, but you sound depressed to me, and focussed on thinking it was because of your job. Unless you address that you’re not going to feel happy, regardless of how you earn a living or occupy your time.

cordeliavorkosigan · 03/10/2026 19:36

I also think you're very brave, and impressive too. And.. I also thought you sound like you might have depression -- might be worth looking into that.

EmeraldRoulette · 03/10/2026 19:44

@TuneInTuneOut this is interesting and continues to surprise me 😊

I’m surprised that you were surprised by the “it’s who you know” thing being important.

I’m also surprised by your comment on pensions because money and happiness and the link that some people make there (thinking that money doesn’t bring happiness above a certain level) wouldn’t relate to the sorting the basics of financial security.

You’ve said you feel like a failure. Why? You didn’t chase after something unrealistic, you had work even in a period where you say you’d walked away from the rat race… people employed you for consultancy so clearly they think well of you and like working with you, and it sounds like you have had the motivation to try lots of new things. I think that’s brilliant! Nothing about that says failure!

and the comment about feeling like a coward…. I’m not seeing that either. Where has that come from? It sounds like you wish you were more idealistic. Whereas actually I wonder if being more realistic would bring more happiness.

The people I’ve mentioned who quit the rat race had no financial back up. They might be okay with their decision?…There’s a couple of them I’ve lost touch with. The others were professional contacts who came back into it having spent a phenomenal amount of money in pursuit of an unrealistic dream really.

I know I have a very different approach to finances to a lot of people, so I won’t go into massive detail here. Just one example is a guy who left a job in the City, went to pursue an unrealistic career dream, ended up having to sell his flat, (predictable) went into a rented flat share, then couldn’t get back into the sector because his line of work was very desirable, very competitive, and five years out of it (during which time he did zero networking, zero keeping his skills up-to-date) was probably too much. He might have got away with it if he’d been absent for six months and he could have lied and said he was travelling or something.

@Crushed23 I’m in awe of the FIRE people!

I don’t see anything like that on Instagram so I don’t know. But one person I do know who was successful, she was very open about the fact that her husband was supporting her. She wanted to be a writer. She got something published while she was still in full-time work (that was key to her decision to stop work) and then within a year she had been hired by a major TV company, they were U.S.-based but they were making a bunch of UK film scripts and she worked on those. She said very freely that if her husband hadn’t been paying the bills at that time, she would not have done it.

it’s a whole other ballgame when someone else is supporting you financially. I was quite cross when I first started freelancing because I met quite a few people who were basically doing their thing as a hobby business. I did have a side hustle and I did have an idea about turning that into a full-time job. But the people I met through researching that, I would say more than half of them were funded in another way. I mean that’s absolutely fine, but it’s annoying when they set themselves up to give advice and they don’t know anything about business loans, or in some cases even just the business planning. Having someone trill
“ just try it” when it would be an investment of my own savings was really frustrating! I needed to talk to people who had a plan, who had experience of running the premises and could talk to me about unforeseen costs and so on.

I am forever grateful to the people who said to me bluntly that they were giving it a try and if it didn’t work, they would pack it in in two years or something. It made me realise the side hustle was not worth a full-time attempt. Basically, I needed hard data from people who were starting out in the same position as me. I was probably in my 30s then and it was a real shock to me to find out how much shit people talk. It’s like those people you see on the Alex Polizzi programme who are just pouring money into an unsuccessful hotel for years. I fundamentally don’t get it.

TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 21:36

How long did it take you to get back into your career? Did you go back at the same level/pay that you left at? I’ve heard the job market is shocking right now.

Thank you so much for your kind words. I'm actually blown away by how kind people have been. I really thought I'd get either no response or a couple of people saying, "well, you didn't really walk away from it all, did you? You only managed a few years and you're hardly Barbara Good".

It took me about 3 years to get back in my old career, and although I'm not where I was financially, I am happier. The job market is tough, the last jump took a year because I was quite choosy as well as there not being much out there. I did turn down a couple of job offers. I was desperate to leave my last place though by the end of it so took a bit of a jump and now have a bit of a long commute.

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TuneInTuneOut · 03/10/2026 21:40

I've had the depression suggestion many, many times. In my 20s I sought help from the GP, had years of therapy, trained as a therapist on the side, practiced as a therapist on the side... Generally medical staff don't think I'm depressed so much as I think too deeply about things(?).

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NET145 · 03/10/2026 21:49

This is really cool. Even if you returned to something similar, it’s great to have given it a go and maybe you’ll try something else radical next time! Too many of us would love to do this but are scared or have too many financial constraints… I would love to think I could give something else a go one day and it’s so inspiring you’ve done it. It doesn’t matter that you have ultimately changed back, it’s the trying it that is inspiring. I have also considered social work or that type of thing