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Did I get this right?

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2021x · 08/11/2026 03:18

I was on a Reddit Thread called:

Which celebrity can you no longer look at the same way after learning about a controversy or something disturbing they did?

A person responded JK Rowling and my reply was as follows.

I can help you with that. JK Rowling has expressed her opinion that, in certain circumstances, such as places in public where women have to remove their clothes (restrooms, changing rooms, etc.), sex should be considered more relevant than gender ideology. For people who do not live on the internet- this is the majority and most common view.

She has publicly stood up to a powerful misogynistic and homophobic ideology against immense pressure and personal persecution. She has held system-makers, not individuals, accountable for the lies that they have been internalised in the British Education and human resources system. She has also supported women across the UK to stand up for their sex-based rights with her own finances, which she made herself.

You can disagree and say that males - who still retain a significant physical strength advantage and commit sexual offences against women at a higher rate than females- in your opinion do not pose any extra risk to women in private space. What you can't say is JK Rowling has wished, asked for or instigated any harm against transgender people as a group or individuals.

Did I get this right or have I missed off anything?

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2021x · 08/11/2026 08:35

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:30

Because that wasn't the point of the conversation. If I wrote that thread, I'd be wanting to hear what sort of things have made people dislike a celebrity. I wouldn't want pages of responses from people arguing about whether the people giving ne the responses I want are allowed to feel that way.

Why do you want to feel disappointed with a person when your facts are incorrect?

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Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:36

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/11/2026 08:34

You seem to be arguing with the OP and challenging her @Lexibletheflexible

Hmmm

Thus thread is titled "Did I get this right?". So me saying "actually, no" is perfectly in line with what the OP is asking.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:36

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:35

Why do you want to feel disappointed with a person when your facts are incorrect?

Sorry I have no idea what you're saying

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/11/2026 08:37

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:36

Thus thread is titled "Did I get this right?". So me saying "actually, no" is perfectly in line with what the OP is asking.

The double standards are evident

You didn't just say "actually no"

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:37

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:35

Ive just read the thread. Easy to find. There's about 275 comments. The only one I can find where anyone has decided to challenge the responder is your comment. Anyone who wants to see just Google the thread content from the OP

Why do you think I would be worried about that.

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Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:38

JellySaurus · 08/11/2026 08:35

So? People’s thoughts are only for affirmation, should never be challenged?

FWIW JKRowling is, indeed, a
celebrity I can no longer look at in the same way after some incident or event. I thought she was just an unspectacular author who lucked on a subject and a publisher. The best thing about the Harry Potter novels was that they got children reading.

Once she spoke up about women’s rights, and then continued to be increasingly eloquent in the face of vicious criticism, and, on top of that, used her money to support her principles, my view of JKR changed completely. I certainly no longer look at her as a lucky person who got children reading, but as a principled, committed, courageous woman.

There is a time and a place. That thread wasn't asking for those types of responses. Nobody else gave those responses. At most, people would explain what incident they are referring to.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:39

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:37

Why do you think I would be worried about that.

I don't think you'd be worried about that because in my opinion, youve lost your ability to gauge what is and what isn't appropriate when it comes to this subject.

Grammarnut · 08/11/2026 08:39

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:24

"Controversial" is a subjective opinion. Not a fact. If someone says they find Moira Stewart a "controversial" character, then it is just their opinion. You can't say they are factually wrong, you can just say you disagree with their opinion.

On this thread you're speaking of, people were being asked to share their opinions on who they find controversial. You were wrong to challenge them.

It does say 'controversy' and there is nothing controversial in JKR's opinions on gender ideology, they are shared by 99% of the population and are mainstream ideas. The controversy is that trans allies accuse her of 'what they do not know but she is too wealthy to cancel so they throw a strop' - therein lies the controversy, I think.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/11/2026 08:39

Cranx · 08/11/2026 08:12

Surely people can dislike or like who they want whatever the reason?

Of course, but it's best to be open about the reasons.

I don't like Jack because he bullied my friend all the way through school.
I don't like Alex because we have nothing in common and from what I've observed at work she is lazy and incompetent.
I don't like J. K. Rowling because she believes that human beings come in two sexes, female and male, and nobody can change their sex; that children shouldn't be put on puberty blockers for 'gender affirming' reasons; that women's sport should be for women and girls only; that it shouldn't be necessary to keep putting 'biological' and 'natal' in front of the words 'women' and 'girls' to be crystal clear about what we mean; that 'cis' is a nonsense word and women aren't a subset of their own sex; that women and girls need female-only spaces and services in certain specific circumstances where they are vulnerable.

One of these reasons makes the person expressing their dislike sound unhinged to the vast majority of other people.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:40

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/11/2026 08:37

The double standards are evident

You didn't just say "actually no"

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There is no double standard. The OP is directly asking if they did/said the right thing(s). I'm saying no.

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:40

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:36

Sorry I have no idea what you're saying

If your disappointment in someone is based on incorrect data, wouldn’t you want to know the correct data and to know the person you admired actually was worth your admiration?

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Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:40

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/11/2026 08:39

Of course, but it's best to be open about the reasons.

I don't like Jack because he bullied my friend all the way through school.
I don't like Alex because we have nothing in common and from what I've observed at work she is lazy and incompetent.
I don't like J. K. Rowling because she believes that human beings come in two sexes, female and male, and nobody can change their sex; that children shouldn't be put on puberty blockers for 'gender affirming' reasons; that women's sport should be for women and girls only; that it shouldn't be necessary to keep putting 'biological' and 'natal' in front of the words 'women' and 'girls' to be crystal clear about what we mean; that 'cis' is a nonsense word and women aren't a subset of their own sex; that women and girls need female-only spaces and services in certain specific circumstances where they are vulnerable.

One of these reasons makes the person expressing their dislike sound unhinged to the vast majority of other people.

The person concerned did give a reason why

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/11/2026 08:42

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:40

There is no double standard. The OP is directly asking if they did/said the right thing(s). I'm saying no.

So say no. And stop there. That's what you're expecting from others. Stick to your own rules.

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:42

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:40

There is no double standard. The OP is directly asking if they did/said the right thing(s). I'm saying no.

Well I am technically asking if I missed anything out- but I can see your confusion.

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Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:43

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:40

If your disappointment in someone is based on incorrect data, wouldn’t you want to know the correct data and to know the person you admired actually was worth your admiration?

Their dislike isnt based on data though. It's likely based on her views that she shares publicly.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:43

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:42

Well I am technically asking if I missed anything out- but I can see your confusion.

I'm not confused. Yes you did miss something out, you shouldn't have posted any challenge at all.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:44

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/11/2026 08:42

So say no. And stop there. That's what you're expecting from others. Stick to your own rules.

I'm responding to anyone who replies to me.

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:44

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:39

I don't think you'd be worried about that because in my opinion, youve lost your ability to gauge what is and what isn't appropriate when it comes to this subject.

In your opinion what is the subject we are discussing, and the appropriate levels.

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2021x · 08/11/2026 08:44

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:43

I'm not confused. Yes you did miss something out, you shouldn't have posted any challenge at all.

In your opinion.

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Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:45

Grammarnut · 08/11/2026 08:39

It does say 'controversy' and there is nothing controversial in JKR's opinions on gender ideology, they are shared by 99% of the population and are mainstream ideas. The controversy is that trans allies accuse her of 'what they do not know but she is too wealthy to cancel so they throw a strop' - therein lies the controversy, I think.

Controversial is an opinion. I might think celebrity X is controversial because she has kids with several different fathers. You might not think that is controversial as we are in 2026. We both have opinions.

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:46

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:44

In your opinion.

Yes. In my opinion. It isn't a fact.

We can see that nobody else in the thread decided to challenge any response but you though.

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:47

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:43

Their dislike isnt based on data though. It's likely based on her views that she shares publicly.

Which has been given a narrative.

The data is evident that she is very clear on her views which are simple. When it comes to single sex spaces the sex of the person trumps TG ideology. There is nothing hateful or genocidal about that.

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2021x · 08/11/2026 08:48

Lexibletheflexible · 08/11/2026 08:46

Yes. In my opinion. It isn't a fact.

We can see that nobody else in the thread decided to challenge any response but you though.

So in your opinion what does that mean?

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Coconutter24 · 08/11/2026 08:48

2021x · 08/11/2026 08:16

I agree but this was specifically aimed at people who are controversial- which JK Rowling discussion in TG ideology isn’t.

Did they ask for your opinion or for you to share facts or for you to try and change their mind? Or do they have their own beliefs on gender etc and that is the reason they dislike her?
Why are you asking if you got this right?

CorvusPurpureus · 08/11/2026 08:48

So Lexible interprets the purpose of the Reddit thread as:
• poster A - explains that they haven’t been quite such an ardent fan of The Krankies since the swinging stuff
• poster B - shares that they voted for that nice David Cameron, but well, that thing with the pig was a bit extra

Everyone else just strokes their beards thoughtfully & no one reacts to anyone else?

That doesn’t quite sound like how Reddit, with its nested posts, works.