Views on androgen insensitivity and women’s sport participation

Define for me what your womanhood is then without reference to any gender stereotypes.

And some people think a man magically becomes a woman when he puts on a dress.

So you’re ok with males in female sports. Gotcha. Why do you believe women are not allowed sports and spaces free from men?

No, I don't believe people with CAIS are male

Because they don’t have a penis?

Found it....

Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time.

IT IS ONE OF MY FUNCTIONS. I HAVE TO OBEY THE RULES.

‘Why? They’re breaking the rules!’

BENDING THEM. THEY HAVE FOUND A LOOPHOLE. I DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF IMAGINATION

It was like Jason and the Battle for the Stationery Cupboard, Susan told herself. You soon learned that ‘No one is to open the door of the Stationery Cupboard’ was a prohibition that a seven-year-old simply would not understand. You had to think, and rephrase it in more immediate terms, like, ‘No one, Jason, no matter what, no, not even if they thought they heard someone shouting for help, no one – are you paying attention, Jason? – is to open the door of the Stationery Cupboard, or accidentally fall on the door handle so that it opens, or threaten to steal Richenda’s teddy bear unless she opens the door of the Stationery Cupboard, or be standing nearby when a mysterious wind comes out of nowhere and blows the door open all by itself, honestly, it really did, or in any way open, cause to open, ask anyone else to open, jump up and down on the loose floorboard to open or in any other way seek to obtain entry to the Stationery Cupboard, Jason!’

No, because they lack the ability to utilise testosterone and because medical experts have determined that those with CAIS are female

Once again you seem to be defining women as men who lack something. That is misogyny.

Why do you think you know more than medical experts when it comes to determining the sex of people with DSDs

They haven't though. They have determined that those with CAIS are males who failed to develop external male characteristics and closely resemble a female. It's not the same thing.

I quoted the NHS page that says people with CAIS are female.

I've stated what Prof Robert Winston has said is the way to determine sex - which would class CAIS as female.

‘Medical experts’ awarded a Nobel
prize for lobotomy.

So why do the NHS class them as male?

In 2004, his argument was that CAIS people develop entirely as a female.

But they don't . They have testes which no-one without a Y chromosome has. They produce testosterone at levels that no female produces. Whether they can use it or not doesn't alter that fact that no female produces testosterone in that quantity.

Male and female people do not have the same brains, male and female babies of 4 hours old behave differently. There is no current research into whether those differences are entirely related to androgen sensitivity.

Then, given that we are discussing these people being in women's sport, let's come to the crux of the matter.

The distinction between Complete and Partial AIS is a judgment call, there is no definition.

And as soon as you introduce judgement, you open the door to mistakes and worse to corruption.

And if Lin Yu-ting is a woman at 5 ft 9 when the average height for a Taiwanese woman of his age is 5ft 2, I'll eat my hat.

I see the trolls are still going... they can't just let it go that males cannot be women.

I think the term is that they butt hurt no one will believe them.