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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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nauticant · 24/09/2026 13:07

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

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BettyBooper · 24/09/2026 13:56

janeszebra · 24/09/2026 13:52

Is anyone elses's sound dreadful?

Mine's ok. Not brilliant (a bit fishbowlly), but not awful.

BettyBooper · 24/09/2026 13:55

NC: How were the chat and so on operated?
PF: My understanding was, some tech probs the day before and so there might be probs with mics etc and ppl should log out and log in again if so. I had tech problems - cd see and hear event but cd not turn on mic bcs turned off by organisers it said on my screen.
PF: So I was putting up my hand to speak but that didn't get picked up, I tried logging out and in 2 or 3 times but no good, so I thought I had better used the chat instead.
NC: You've mentioned there was a technical legal presentation, Joanne Galbraith Martin. What happened after the end of her presentation?
PF: The session seemed a bit unstructured - not clear what would happen next. There was a presentation by a trans-id male nurse, about impact on them emotionally

janeszebra · 24/09/2026 13:52

Is anyone elses's sound dreadful?

BettyBooper · 24/09/2026 13:52

PF: I was quite upset by the session, I contacted Sex Matters for a debrief really. I'm a retiree, you don't have the same support as when working so contacted SM. They put me in touch with a nurse and that was JW.
NC: You went to different event than JW, can you tell me who was there?
PF: I don't know the attendees, there were 5-7 RCN leaders including a legal person who gave presentation at the beginning. Can't remember it all.
PF: The legal presentation was very factual and I don't think she contributed later in the meeting. There was a technical person - I can't remember names, there was so much going on in the chat that I couldn't really concentrate on the presentations.

Szygy · 24/09/2026 13:50

Thank you nauticant for the continued threads and to all the valiant cut-and-pasters.

Of course I'm not surprised about the institutional capture of the RCN but it’s still pretty brutal to hear it laid out like this.

BettyBooper · 24/09/2026 13:49

From TT

[Next witness is Pauline Fox]

The judge is affirming in the next witness Pauline Fox

NC: tribunal has already heard that you and JW are raising your own claims arising out of the online session. How did you come to hear of JW?
PF: I read of her intervening in the SC case but never met her.
NC: And how did you meet her?

nauticant · 24/09/2026 13:40

<faints at the prospect>

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muddyford · 24/09/2026 13:39

TensionWheelsCooIHeels · 24/09/2026 13:38

Just catching up again. Thanks for the threads (this must be a record by now - has anything else hit 63 threads like this?). 🙏

The Archers is up to 203!

TensionWheelsCooIHeels · 24/09/2026 13:38

Just catching up again. Thanks for the threads (this must be a record by now - has anything else hit 63 threads like this?). 🙏

BoreOfWhabylon · 24/09/2026 13:36

Thank you for the thread and to all contributors Flowers

Signalbox · 24/09/2026 13:36

Great to see that SP has so many witnesses on her side this time around.

Appalonia · 24/09/2026 13:18

Are pp in? I am just getting WFTCHTJ

NormalityIsOverrated · 24/09/2026 13:09

Thank you for the thread

Soontobe60 · 24/09/2026 13:09

👍🏻