Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

And you can fuck off with your wanky acronyms too.

Blah blah blah blah - yawn.

That was what triggered all fucking off.

TT

NC - that is an short letter from SD to the Darlington NHS Trust? What was the reason a similar letter couldn't be written on behalf of SP and all her female colleagues
NP - managed by SWAG, we raised with SWAG.

TT

NP - I would not expect that for the reasons I gave earlier.
NC - how long would you expect that call to be NP about 30 minutes.
NC it was put to Ms Peggie and she thought it was more like 10 minutes. Those notes don't account for a 30 minute call

J - coming to end?
NC - short further section.
NC - turn to page 425.

NC - that's MG letter 21 May have you re read recently?
NP - yes
NC - she expresses disappointment that RCN hasn't resolved single sex provision. Turn to p969

it's my belief that it would be further along in the process where more of the facts are known that SF would make a decision about legal support

but not too fucking early to give Sandie reassurance that there was a legal way forward open to her if other routes were unsuccessful!!!!!!!!!

Yep

Yes. Yes, you have.

Nick Wallis's version
NC [takes NP back to SF's note of SF's first convo with SP in which SP tells SF she did not want Dr Upton in her changing room because he was a man and reads it out] - that's a clear demo of her GC beliefs NP we did not know it was a firmly held belief

This is the reason for all the fuckoffs.

NC quotes this note - SP's level of discomfort. That could not be clearer of sex realist belief 'you are not a woman because you say you are'
NP SP had not expressed that belief but I go back to make the point about the hurdles

"There's a man in the women's changing room and I don't think that's okay."

<<Gets suspended for having a belief>>

Union: She didn't say it was a firmly held belief therefore nothing for us to concern ourselves with.

Have I got this right?

That'll teach me to rage type!

I think he's well and truly fucked himself there! Truly showed the union's true colours!

Which they are now using to justify not helping her. Circular or what!

TT

NC quotes this note - SP's level of discomfort. That could not be clearer of sex realist belief 'you are not a woman because you say you are'
NP SP had not expressed that belief but I go back to make the point about the hurdles,

it's my belief that it would be further along in the process where more of the facts are known that SF would make a decision about legal support.
NC - SP said in evidence that she didn't know what GC was. She wasn't the expert was she? Not her to know her beliefs were protected in law?

NP - no but it would have been too early to bring legal referral
NP this was an enquiry, a brief call. SP made it clear she was going to be suspended. SF place to advise on that, and to meet and to formulate response. An initial call doesn't cover all that you describe

Yes, finish him off NC!

@janeszebra

I like use of 'eternal' but suspect you meant external.

Perhaps RCN's lack of help and response to Sandie's initial call was the prompt for her to seek eternal help. These fucking idiots.

Fuck off.

And then keep fucking off.
And fuck off until you come to a gate with a sign that says 'no fucking off past this point'.

Then climb that gate, dream the impossible dream and keep fucking off forever.

JFC!!!!!

poor Sandie relying on getting advice from these clowns!

I'm glad to see we are all of one mind!

I can't decide if i'm jealous when all the posters post in unison about something that isn't yet clear to me, or excited as to what may be about to happen!

😁

TT

(Glad: NC) - .you say the claim was part heard (she quotes) you seek to bolster your original decision nothing to do with your initial decision.

If you turn to p417, Mrs Peggie email 3 March sets out all reasons why your explanation makes no sense. She draws reasonable inference that she is refused because of her GC beliefs. Go to p320 SF note of original call

Interesting spot of legal analysis @😂