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Orangemintcream · 05/08/2026 14:35

I notice no engagement from the OP.

Soontobe60 · 05/08/2026 14:36

IntolerantOfIntolerance · 05/08/2026 13:45

Thank you for your rational response, although the very fact there have been reports - rather than serious engagement - hugely underlines the major issue to which I'm alluding 🙄

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It’s a bit hard to have any “serious engagement” with such nonsense 🤣

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 05/08/2026 14:37

KG74 · 05/08/2026 14:25

I mean, we are all walking phenotypes, even cis people, and to assume that there are no deviations from a hard-line biological distinction set out in genetic code seems un-scientific and unreasonable to expect in an age that has long-since accepted nature V's nature is a false distinction. The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age. But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around. I doubt any trans people are here to read this, but if you are, panic not. Trans people are always going to be here so society needs to adapt to you, not the other way around.

Yeah, I know about people with phenotypical deviations.

I refer you to my previous posts about lacking public provision for people with disabilities.

Disabled people are always going to be here, so society needs to adapt to them, not the other way around.

HTH.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/08/2026 14:37

I’m intolerant of misogyny and entitled men and their helpers.

murasaki · 05/08/2026 14:39

Orangemintcream · 05/08/2026 14:35

I notice no engagement from the OP.

Let alone any 'serious engagement'....

GreyskySexRealistsky · 05/08/2026 14:41

murasaki · 05/08/2026 14:39

Let alone any 'serious engagement'....

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Gone to print a t-shirt

DialSquare · 05/08/2026 14:42

KG74 · 05/08/2026 14:25

I mean, we are all walking phenotypes, even cis people, and to assume that there are no deviations from a hard-line biological distinction set out in genetic code seems un-scientific and unreasonable to expect in an age that has long-since accepted nature V's nature is a false distinction. The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age. But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around. I doubt any trans people are here to read this, but if you are, panic not. Trans people are always going to be here so society needs to adapt to you, not the other way around.

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CassOle · 05/08/2026 14:45

The people with trans identities who are decent people will follow the law.

If they do not want to use the toilet facilities for their sex, they will need to do a tiny bit more planning to ensure that unisex facilities are available at their destination.

As mentioned upthread, this is not a big deal at all compared to the huge issues that people with severe disabilities have to plan around and are restricted by.

So, the people with trans identities who want to use toilets for validation of their identity and refuse to follow the law, just out themselves as non-decent people. Those egging them on... also out themselves as non-decent people.

Seriestwo · 05/08/2026 14:45

This might be a useful guide for the people who know they are male but want women’s stuff. Tweet

Pingponghavoc · 05/08/2026 14:49

It's been said a million times, but its worth repeating.

Single sex services are needed for legitimate reasons. They wouldnt be able to exist if not.

Trans people do not change sex. They may have identification in the opposite sex, but that does not change their sex.

If a provider has established that single sex service are legitimate, including the opposite sex makes no sense. It negates the orginal aim.

If trans people want to remove SSE, and create 'gendered' spaces, they are free to lobby the government.

To do this they have to define 'gender' and established need based on this gender, and demonstrate that SSE are no longer needed.

Getting cross and insulting women on a feminist board on a parenting website will not achieve this.

Happy tucking.

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2026 14:51

KG74 · 05/08/2026 14:25

I mean, we are all walking phenotypes, even cis people, and to assume that there are no deviations from a hard-line biological distinction set out in genetic code seems un-scientific and unreasonable to expect in an age that has long-since accepted nature V's nature is a false distinction. The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age. But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around. I doubt any trans people are here to read this, but if you are, panic not. Trans people are always going to be here so society needs to adapt to you, not the other way around.

I'm fighting back the urge to write
PARKLIFE!
after all that.
Ooops I just lost the fight😏

The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age.

That doesn't even come close to my list of things that 'seem nonsensical in this day and age', whereas 'the idea that it is possible to change your biological sex' is in the top ten.

But if you think it's true that it's problematic that 'chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads' are not '100% observable with clothes on', all the more reason to do the simple thing, and just use the facilities which are designated for your biological sex - which is 100% knowable.

If everybody did that, there's be no need for your complicated chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads-spotting skills.

There's a lot of nonsensical stuff going on in this day and age, so why invent new nonsensical stuff with complications that needn't exist?

Biological males, use the men's, biological females, use the women's.
You know which you are. Just do it.

nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 14:51

IntolerantOfIntolerance · 05/08/2026 13:30

Being trans right now is to be institutionally discriminated against. It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous. That this should happen under a so called Labour government is unforgivable.

Meanwhile we stagger on. If you want backup using a toilet I’m yours. I’ll walk into the ladies with you and tell people to back the fuck off if I have to. I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace. The situation is ludicrous - what I can do is a drop in the ocean, but drop I will.

Maybe I need to print myself a t-shirt that says fighting for the freedom to piss in peace. I don’t know. The world is on fire both metaphorically and literally, yet of all the things one could do a big chunk of people have chosen to gang up on a vulnerable minority. It’s like watching people dig their own graves.

You should certainly campaign for more unisex provision if there isn't sufficient.

In the meantime, Costa Coffees are plentiful and they usually have unisex toilets.

I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace.

Thank you for telling us, but this seems to be a men's problem, and this site is predominantly used by women.

Helleofabore · 05/08/2026 14:54

You know, I am marvelling at the fact that OP has pretty much admitted that they don’t understand consent, safeguarding or boundaries.

Walking into any toilet to ‘back up’ people who wish to use them regardless of the sex that facility is for is a sure sign of having no understanding of consent, safeguarding and boundaries.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/08/2026 14:55

LizzieSiddal · 05/08/2026 13:52

Why is it all about loos? This guidance also applies to many other places including prison and rape crisis centres. Remember Karen White, the rapist put in a female prison because he said he was trans,
halfway through police investigations? Lo and behold he goes and sexually assaults four women!! Who’d have thought it eh!!

This guidance ensures that will never happen again, I want to know why every right thinking person is not supporting it.

Because some male people appear to have based their entire identity on getting to pee in the same bit of ceramic thst female people have pee'd in.

It is deeply deeply weird and very insulting to female people, who continue to exist, continue to be female and continue to need female-only resources, support and indeed language to deal with the reality of being us in a society built by and for the male-bodied.

Keeptoiletssafe · 05/08/2026 14:55

The OP has the toilets of the sex they are, the accessible and the universal.

Non ambulant people have the accessible, usually not single sex. The ‘ambulant’ design in single sex accommodation maybe suitable if they can move a few steps as it has grab bars and the door opens outwards.

Non ambulant people that need a hoist etc can’t use ‘standard’ accessible, they need a changing places toilet. There’s an estimated 250,000 people in the UK that need these.
https://www.changing-places.org

Meanwhile, many people are left in tears as there’s no toilets for them to use. This affects women, girls, elderly, medical vulnerable and disabled people more than an able bodied man.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg92nl5w25o

Changing Places Toilets

https://www.changing-places.org

Pingponghavoc · 05/08/2026 14:56

I can see why women were/are sympathetic to these men. Being gender non conforming in certain situations is scary, and generally, women dont want to see anyone hurt.

But what is gender non conforming about verbally abusing women? Or being angry, or ignoring womens boundaries?

If these men were genuinely gender non conforming, they would work towards finding solutions to their own problems and not expect every women to be their mothers and social workers.

AutumnAllTheWay · 05/08/2026 14:56

Have you posted this on any mostly male sites as well as here?

Curious? Why us?

nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 14:58

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 05/08/2026 14:21

Thousands of people with profound and multiple learning disabilities, as well other disabilities that severely limit mobility, cannot use standard accessible toilets.

People may be limited in their own mobility so need equipment to help them or may need support from one or two carers to either get on the toilet or to have their continence pad changed.

Standard accessible toilets (or "disabled toilets") do not provide changing benches or hoists and most are too small to accommodate more than one person. Without Changing Places toilets, the person with disabilities is put at risk, and families are forced to risk their own health and safety by changing their loved one on a toilet floor.

This is dangerous, unhygienic and undignified.

It is now accepted and expected that everyone has a right to live in the community, to move around within it and access all its facilities. Government policy promotes the idea of "community participation" and "active citizenship," but for some people with disabilities the lack of a fully accessible toilet is denying them this right.

Although the numbers are increasing, there are still not enough Changing Places toilets across the country.

Providing these toilets in public places would make a dramatic difference to the lives of thousands of people who desperately need these facilities.

https://www.changing-places.org/

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Doesn't this particularly affect women because it is less easy for them to use another receptacle for urinating while out and about?

This seems to be another example of why women need sex based rights.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 05/08/2026 15:02

Thanks @IntolerantOfIntolerance , that’s amazing, I’m really glad that you’ll protect my right to pre in peace.
im female, and a survivor of sexual violence so to be ‘at peace’ i absolutely need space to pee where I can guarantee no males at all.
so if you could stand outside and guard the door that would be great.

RoyalCorgi · 05/08/2026 15:02

You have a gender-neutral bathroom at home, so why does it bother you?

WallaceinAnderland · 05/08/2026 15:03

while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace

STOP PRESS

Biological Male Sneaks into Biological Male toilets to Piss in Peace

Twoshoesnewshoes · 05/08/2026 15:03

Oh, and my friend is Jewish so she needs the same, can she have your number?

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 05/08/2026 15:03

WallaceinAnderland · 05/08/2026 15:03

while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace

STOP PRESS

Biological Male Sneaks into Biological Male toilets to Piss in Peace

Yes this was a particular tell wasn't it.

murasaki · 05/08/2026 15:06

Posters like the OP would make appalling poker players, the tells are visible from space.

nicepotoftea · 05/08/2026 15:08

KG74 · 05/08/2026 14:25

I mean, we are all walking phenotypes, even cis people, and to assume that there are no deviations from a hard-line biological distinction set out in genetic code seems un-scientific and unreasonable to expect in an age that has long-since accepted nature V's nature is a false distinction. The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age. But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around. I doubt any trans people are here to read this, but if you are, panic not. Trans people are always going to be here so society needs to adapt to you, not the other way around.

The idea we are all equipped with skills that makes chromosomes, hormonal profiles and gonads 100% observable with clothes on seems nonsensical in this day and age.

Like other species, most humans are able to judge sex with a high degree of accuracy.

But moreover, there is no sense in creating division where statistics do not back up any of the widespread danger claims that are being touted around.

If this is your opinion and you want to campaign for mixed sex toilet provision you are certainly free to do so.

Trans people are always going to be here so society needs to adapt to you, not the other way around.

Barring some kind of evolutionary leap, humans will continue to reproduce sexually and be male or female. Women rely on rights that men don't (and many of these have nothing to do with single sex provision), so the law will always need to recognise sex.

I do understand that many men fail to understand the practical consequences of being born female, and societal conditioning leads them to believe that women should acquiesce to their every desire, but this expectation can only lead to disappointment.