STOP MIS GENDERING ME JUST SAY SHE

'Between a half and two-thirds of prisoners have a personality disorder1. Their
management often creates considerable challenges for the Probation and Prison Services. This guidance provides advice relating to personality disordered offenders who present a high or very high risk of serious harm to others and may require specialist treatment to meet their complex needs. A range of interventions are currently available for men and women through the Dangerous and Severe Personality Disorder (DSPD) Programme (300 places), Democratic Therapeutic Communities (TCs) in Prisons (538 places) and the NHS.'

PC21/2008 – MANAGING HIGH RISK OF
SERIOUS HARM OFFENDERS WITH SEVERE
PERSONALITY DISORDER - National Probation Service

That is an older document, but the stats I imagine are roughly the same.

Great post.

Yes. From personal anecdotal experience I think that’s sometimes the case.

This unwell, dysregulated man will be in the toilets with girls and women. I reckon some public shaming is required to stop this erosion of boundaries.

Perfectly put @RedToothBrush

"It's all the promises and enabling of a fantasy that is directly at odds with the reality and legal issues that it creates that the issue.
The video is a visual representation of all that's gone wrong. And we are supposed to ignore it and pretend everything is fine when it's quite clearly not."

Where's the 'hatred'?

It's clear to just about everyone this is a vulnerable man.

It's also clear that this man would be a risk, and frankly terrifying, to women in women's spaces.

Yet we are told that we must accept and cherish and celebrate including such men in women's services, spaces, etc.

Agreed.

Unhinged male aggression and male strength (look at how 2 fully grown men struggled to get him down to the point they had to pull the taser out!)

And there are people out there who would say he's just a delicate little flower, we all just need to be kinder and shut up, and then he'll be perfectly safe to be in female only spaces! With young women who wouldn't stand a bloody chance if he decided to turn on them.

Fuck that!!!!

Agree it makes me really uncomfortable seeing someone like this on display to the world in a clearly totally disregulated state. He's like to have some or all of autism, metal illness, some kind of abuse or trauma, being gay, and/or having been let down by adults in his life as a starting point, and then been encouraged to think he's a girl and obviously been drawn to an ideology where he gets to call the shots and no one is allowed to upset him.

As you say his problems should have been treated entirely differently with therapy to help him come to terms with who he is and whatever difficulties he faces.

His behaviour is entitled and dramatic and of course he shouldn't be in any space, category or provision that is for females. And no one should be forced to mis-sex him. That should be a given and perfectly normal, not a cause for a meltdown. The fact that it is lies at the feet of all the enabling parents, teachers, doctors, institutions and governments who have themselves been totally misled.

I agree with PPs people like this shouldn't be ridiculed or mocked. Many, many people with comorbid conditions have been led into trans as some kind of answer to everything and made to think they must never be challenged. Many are mentally ill, for many transitioning makes this worse, and many will come out the other end and need a lot of support.

I think some posters are finding it awfully inconvenient for their belief system to see what happens when some of these men are told “no”, as this man might be if he tried to use a woman only space.

@selffellatingouroborosofhateits on the full video on YouTube

On the privacy issue, I looked into how easy it was to obtain video cam footage or police interview footage and in some USA states even I as a foreign civilian can easily obtain such material if I just pay the admin fee. They'd argue it was to be transparent but I prefer the model here and Europe as I wouldn't want anyone to just get such material of me if I ever had the misfortune to end up filmed by the police.

I also agree with those saying that the police officer could have tried to deescalate more.

How do women know which one will totally lose it and which one won't?

Given so many offenders and criminals have personality disorders, most police should be familiar with how to deal with it.

I'm not saying its easy.

But there needs to be training and awareness.

One terrifying consequence of creating the sacred caste of 'trans' is that police training has reportedly stopped teaching police about the profile of fetishistic paraphilia. Police are no longer taught about paraphilias.

Gaps in knowledge due to political creation of sacred castes causes real risk and danger.

Diana Alastair on X talks about how this part of her training, as a homicide cop in the US, was removed.

I agree with a lot of what you say. I think some people with their virtue signalling ought to consider that other people are also vulnerable and a woman or girl in an altercation with a violent man is 99 times out of 100 going to come off worse. No one should be telling this man he can be a woman.

That poor guy, society has done a number on him. He thinks that his problems are centred around his gender dysphoria, when he is clearly mentally ill. The problem is there are lots more like him, and I dont want to meet them in the bathroom, pool changing rooms,or the gym.

'Vulnerable' does not equal 'harmless'

'Marginalised' does not equal 'not a risk'

This isn't about an individual man though is it?

It's about there being multiple videos of very similar reactions from other trans identifying men.

This is why women are not challenging these men and yet it held against us as quite acceptance because we don't say anything when we feel threatened or uncomfortable.

This is why videos like this are being shared too. We have to make a point about this.

This is just one such clip in a sea of similar ones unfortunately.

A woman would not have gone mad at being called she. And therein lies the heart of the problem. If someone looks and acts like a man we will naturally call them he. The idea that the police have to ask for and respect pronouns when they turn up at a live incident is beyond bonkers. Theres a bloke with a firearm threatening people but we have to check his bloody pronouns before we even address the situation is just the height of over privileged out of touchness. The enablement is largely driven by people who don't deal with these fronts line conflict points and the recipients of this behaviour are inevitably most likely to be more vulnerable and less affluent and influential women, children and other vulnerable groups.

That's then entire point. And problem.

And why gender critical movements established at grass roots in the first fucking place - because there isn't the appropriate support and understanding of autism, mental health and trauma at the most basic grassroots levels. Instead the ideology sought to brush away any possible discussion or support along these lines as 'bigoted' and 'prejudiced'.

It's fucked up beyond words.

And a man who may be considered more vulnerable than other men does NOT mean he is more vulnerable than women.

Bluntly, this man could seriously injure a woman very easily, and is clearly disinhibited, disordered, and aggressive.

Yep. I'm not mocking this man. I found it distressing to watch the footage.

I also am very very clear that I do not want to be in a confined space with this man, who it took two grown policemen to subdue.

I also don’t think videos should be posted of any members of the public - I’ve never been a fan of shaming or commenting on others via video. But apparently saying no to men isn’t enough, our lack of consent isn’t enough, our privacy and dignity and boundaries aren’t enough.

We need to have evidence that allowing men into women’s spaces and propping up their fantasy world that everyone will treat them as the women they are claiming to be increases the risk of violence to women. So there you go.

Yep. How many times are we told, piously, that no man who calls himself trans has ever harmed a woman? That 'transwomen' present no threat to women.

So we have to share the fucking evidence, including, sometimes, women having to share their abuse history.

Uncomfortable, but there you fucking go.

Yes I totally agree with this too. Trans-identifying people are often vulnerable, deluded, mentally ill and/or ND, and that is why I am not on board with mockery, insults, etc. I think gender ideology will blow over, as long as it's taking, and sane and gender-critical people will be the ones that those departing the sinking ship will be able to reach out to. Setting up emnity IMO stands in the way of that and makes unhappy, struggling trans-IDing people more entrenched. (This is partly about personal experience with a trans-IDing family member.)

However, given the situation we're in. absolutely some of these extremely angry, deluded people are dangerous, and the facts of sex mean that the males are way more dangerous abd likely to be violent and it's females in general who are at greater risk. (That also applies to trans-IDing females within these circles, who suffer a lot of sexual exploitation as well as a higher rate of physical harm from the related "treatments".)

That was an uncomfortable watch. He's clearly very ill and he should've been escorted out, not threatened with pepper spray and a taser.

Here’s the BBC propping up the identity of a violent man who attacked random shoppers in a 7 11 with an axe. There are much more recent things I could cite, but I think the nature of this one is relevant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-46914419

https://www.instagram.com/p/DbGcT-EomDL/

Another one.

This huge, aggressive man is not rendered harmless to women by virtue of wearing a tartan skirt.