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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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SwirlyGates · 21/08/2026 11:10

lcakethereforeIam · 20/08/2026 23:08

The necklace he's wearing Hmm

And the pout.

The whole impression is of a teenager posing for their friends, not of a politician who is going to respect the electorate and get important things done.

Lalgarh · 22/08/2026 23:06

Omg 😱! It's like Marvel and DC

Zack Polanski interviewing Jeremy Corbyn on his podcast

https://nitter.net/_BoldPolitics/status/2090883909852479905#m

DrBlackbird · 23/08/2026 09:36

fromorbit · 20/08/2026 08:48

Breaking - another huge Green scandal -

A Green party councillor in Leeds is calling on the Greens to suspend Mothin Ali based on, it appears, the misuse of a special responsibility allowance for Leeds Councillors. Seems Mothin was using Leeds money for national Green business for a while probally knowing Mothin I suspect mostly spent on stuff to do with the Midfdle East:

Thread of complaints from other Greens:
https://nitter.net/jwomencount2/status/2090166702919008499

One of those comments in the nitter thread is interesting:

And so it begins. public criticism of public figures (committing what sounds like fraud to obtain public funds) is to be suppressed because of the possibility that they kill themselves. So manipulative, cunning, and sly to use JA as a reason not to criticise anyone.

The Green Party is beginning to sound worse than Reform for its dodgy politics and questionable choices of elected representatives. Perhaps this is the not unexpected evolution of what ‘progressive’ politics looks like after the well meaning but naive sandal wearing founders open their arms to anyone claiming underdog status thereby ending up being exploited for more dubious purposes.

It’s as if they’ve fallen for some romance scam. Of course I love the environment and social justice. Now give me more money.

And of note is that its dodgy politics is mostly reported by the likes of Private Eye and not the mainstream press.

fromorbit · 25/08/2026 09:37

Oh dear. This is not going to end well Times Article. Don;t have a share token. I wonder if the article mentions the Greens have already kicked out Green Women's Declaration (GWD) from having a stall at conference for believing women are a thing last year.

Greens accused of ‘banning’ antisemitism charity from conference
Zack Polanski's party will not host an event by the Antisemitism Policy Trust and More in Common as part of its conference fringe programme.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

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fromorbit · 25/08/2026 10:12

Important article on legal fights in Greens wait till the costs from this year come in. How many Green councils are committed to banning women from having toliets or saying anything?

Hatip @IwantToRetire

Green Party spends over £1m on legal costs in a year
Party accused of using member’s money to fight ‘unwinnable’ battles against people with gender-critical views
In 2024, the Greens spent £270,227 on legal and professional fees, which rose to £1,030,118 in 2025, according to accounts submitted to the Electoral Commission.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/22/green-party-spends-over-1m-on-legal-costs-in-a-year/

Also at https://archive.is/6G3ek

Huge reverse ferret from Greens.

Green Party ditches 'mad' call to ban police Tasers and pepper spray
The Green Party has sparked controversy over a draft conference motion to ban Tasers - but party officials say the wording has now been dropped

Zack Polanski's Green Party has dropped a request to adopt a policy to strip police of Tasers and pepper spray. Documents seen by The Times reportedly showed party activists were also keen to scrap the government's Prevent counter-terror scheme, pull cops out of schools and even close down prisons in a draft motion put forward earlier this year.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/green-party-sparks-fury-over-37587318

Green Party ditches 'mad' call to ban police Tasers and pepper spray

The Green Party has sparked controversy over a draft conference motion to ban Tasers - but party officials say the wording has now been dropped

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/green-party-sparks-fury-over-37587318

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CassOle · 25/08/2026 12:02

fromorbit · 25/08/2026 09:37

Oh dear. This is not going to end well Times Article. Don;t have a share token. I wonder if the article mentions the Greens have already kicked out Green Women's Declaration (GWD) from having a stall at conference for believing women are a thing last year.

Greens accused of ‘banning’ antisemitism charity from conference
Zack Polanski's party will not host an event by the Antisemitism Policy Trust and More in Common as part of its conference fringe programme.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

Hopefully this works: https://www.skipthepaywall.com/read?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.com%2Fuk%2Fpolitics%2Farticle%2Fgreen-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

fromorbit · 25/08/2026 15:48

Shahrar Ali on the fallout over the Greens policy proposal to remove Tasers where ZP and others attempt to justify the discussion as showing Green democracy at work.

Shahrar Ali

Whilst the concept of member-driven policy is a good one, what Polanski fails to mention is the full-on manipulation exerted by the dominant internal clique of the day, often aided by the leadership, to get their way at all costs. Anything but one-member one-vote, but extreme factional authoritarianism has been the order of the day in recent years.

In 2018, in Bristol, a grassroots campaign of sensible members who wanted to debate sex-based rights were subjected to all sorts of sabotage tactics, ultimately successful, to stop their motion being debated. This was the conference ThePosieParker
was seen distributing literature at the entrance to venue and had police called on her by Sian Berry and other ideologues.

In 2021, my own motion on banning GenderGP from prescribing puberty blockers to kids in UK was subjected to an extraordinary negative campaign to prevent it from being heard, despite widespread internal support. Weaponised use of disciplinary processes followed, which were resuscitated following my first unlawful discrimination win against the party.

In 2022, in an audacious affront to our rules, a dominant clique manipulated conference process to leapfrog a motion expressing "Solidarity with Drag Queen Story Hour/Time". This was despite a clear prioritisation ballot to the contrary, which had put an environmental motion ahead on the time-starved agenda.

In 2024, again, I had a well-founded motion coming to conference, post-Cass, to help put the party on a sensible policy footing with respect to the medical malpractice scandal of the century. Just days ahead of that conference I was subjected to an emergency suspension.

So don't believe Polanski when he claims you can't read a lot into the direction and culture of the party from what gets through to the conference agenda and what eventually gets heard, overcoming obstacles along the way, or getting a manipulative helping hand.

October 2026 Brighton will see another showdown on "Zionism is Racism" motion. The party has an explosive internal fight on its hands because of the fanatical beast they have enabled and unleashed not now doing as they are told, with those genuinely concerned about the antisemitic direction of the party forming alliance with hypocritical leaders who themselves realise the politically suicidal optics of passing such a motion. They're hypocrites because it's simply the natural extension of their chants of "from the river to the sea".

Some of this abuse of internal democratic process coming to an unlawful gender critical protected belief discrimination case near you. Women, in particular, have been silenced and persecuted in the party for too long. It's antidemocratic and unlawful. Political parties and their representatives aspire to make law but they are not above the law.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/08/2026 16:47

I agree with him, especially the part at the end "...but they are not above the law." It's time the cohort in Bristol faced a reckoning for the anti-democratic feudal system they've managed to impose.
I think all political parties are subject to the same corrosive effect from ideologues but the Green's have taken it to another level.

IwantToRetire · 25/08/2026 18:47

fromorbit · 25/08/2026 10:12

Important article on legal fights in Greens wait till the costs from this year come in. How many Green councils are committed to banning women from having toliets or saying anything?

Hatip @IwantToRetire

Green Party spends over £1m on legal costs in a year
Party accused of using member’s money to fight ‘unwinnable’ battles against people with gender-critical views
In 2024, the Greens spent £270,227 on legal and professional fees, which rose to £1,030,118 in 2025, according to accounts submitted to the Electoral Commission.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/22/green-party-spends-over-1m-on-legal-costs-in-a-year/

Also at https://archive.is/6G3ek

Huge reverse ferret from Greens.

Green Party ditches 'mad' call to ban police Tasers and pepper spray
The Green Party has sparked controversy over a draft conference motion to ban Tasers - but party officials say the wording has now been dropped

Zack Polanski's Green Party has dropped a request to adopt a policy to strip police of Tasers and pepper spray. Documents seen by The Times reportedly showed party activists were also keen to scrap the government's Prevent counter-terror scheme, pull cops out of schools and even close down prisons in a draft motion put forward earlier this year.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/green-party-sparks-fury-over-37587318

Thanks for the Telegraph article link. Useful to have.

Lalgarh · 25/08/2026 21:21

Shite.

Nitter, the bypassing site that lets you read twitter, is offline

https://www.reddit.com/r/InoReader/comments/1vy8noq/nitter_officially_dead/

ArabellaScott · 25/08/2026 22:41

Oh, bummer.

CassOle · 25/08/2026 22:56

xcancel.com and nitter.poast.org are also not working.

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3
Lalgarh · 25/08/2026 23:08

Twitter Web viewer seems to still be up

https://twitterwebviewer.com

DrBlackbird · 26/08/2026 09:07

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/08/2026 16:47

I agree with him, especially the part at the end "...but they are not above the law." It's time the cohort in Bristol faced a reckoning for the anti-democratic feudal system they've managed to impose.
I think all political parties are subject to the same corrosive effect from ideologues but the Green's have taken it to another level.

That’s a good point about ideologues in all parties. Look what Rees-Smogg and his anti-EU ideologues did to the Tories and Corbynistas to Labour. However this sums up what the Greens have become;

In 2022, in an audacious affront to our rules, a dominant clique manipulated conference process to leapfrog a motion expressing "Solidarity with Drag Queen Story Hour/Time". This was despite a clear prioritisation ballot to the contrary, which had put an environmental motion ahead on the time-starved agenda.

Drag Queens over the environment. From the Green Party.

At a time when global temperatures have risen year in, year out, and extreme weather events are increasing in frequency, the UK could really use a political party laser focused on environmental issues. One that attracted ecologists, environmentalists and scientists committed to developing sensible and effective policies to address climate change. It would’ve been possible to address wider social issues through an environmental lens.

But the Green Party has probably been going awry for a number of years and even Lucas’s PhD was in English literature. Perhaps it’s always been more tree hugging and sandals than tree ecology and science.

IwantToRetire · 26/08/2026 18:44

I was never a member of the Green Party but thought in its early days it has an important view point of the world and its future.

Now when more than every we need to clear thinking and solutions, they aren't even bothered to make public statements about fires, heat, water shortage.

Shame really that the original founders of the Green Party cant sue them for bringing disrepute on the name.

Although cant even think of a name that would reflect the political stance of the party as currently focused.

Lalgarh · 27/08/2026 13:20

Glory Be!

DontStopMe · 27/08/2026 13:20

Oh dear. Have the Greens had a look at the Good Law Project's record?

SwirlyGates · 27/08/2026 13:24

Although cant even think of a name that would reflect the political stance of the party as currently focused.

I'd go for "Queers for Gaza".

Lalgarh · 27/08/2026 13:24

You just don't BELIEVE in Jolyon you HATAZ.

they'll win this time!

He's the Petrocelli of the 21st century

ArabellaScott · 27/08/2026 13:24

ItsCoolForCats · 27/08/2026 12:14

The Greens have got the Good Law project acting for them 😬

A match made in heaven

https://goodlawproject.org/crowdfunder/help-the-greens-protect-trans-members/

Oh that is fucking brilliant news! 😂

ArabellaScott · 27/08/2026 13:25

Lalgarh · 27/08/2026 13:24

You just don't BELIEVE in Jolyon you HATAZ.

they'll win this time!

He's the Petrocelli of the 21st century

Oh, but I do! 😁

Lalgarh · 27/08/2026 13:32

216 donors have given just over £4000 out of their £40k target.

An average of just under £19.

GLP also skim a 10% cut for running costs, when the whole thing is to fund them GLP in their work defending green party.

So that's already £400 for Jolyon

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3