"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 9

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Agreed.

This also causes endless problems with incompatible IT systems meaning patients notes aren't always visible across different hospitals and NHS services which can be extremely dangerous.

This goes right back to the 80s and the creation of individual NHS Trusts under Maggie Thatcher.

It is a disgrace that the law is being ignored on single sex spaces but in some ways it is the least of NHS problems.

I am a retired nurse and thank christ I don't have to work in the chaos anymore.

That sentence is so short, but so useful. I use it liberally.

Are they aye?

It's easy enough to prove that they were lying, just publish🤷‍♀️

🙄🙄🙄🙄

This!

labour women's declaration are leaping to the minister's defence with one of their directors implying the nurses may be lying and have a political agenda

Don't forget that each Trust is reinventing the wheel for literally thousands of policies & protocols. The big issue is we don't have a National Health Service but instead hundreds of different organisations with immense duplication.

I'd at least like to see a minister asked why the hell every health trust has to write (or c & p) its own policies, when surely one centralised (and accurate) policy would do.

I’ve been talking with the DH about the impending October budget and wondering what will be the next stealth tax. I understand that a functioning state needs money.

However, every day I drive by the behemoth of a beast known as HS2 and marvel at the complete waste of taxpayer money. How much waste and exploitation of funds that is entrenched in our construction industry. That Healey is scrabbling for defence budget increases and meanwhile over £100b is being spent to save 15 minutes on a train to London.

Likewise, I also believe there’s a lot of waste in the NHS. Certainly on the salaries of the likes of Ms Bumba. Reading this about individual trusts creating their own policies confirms this.

So much inefficiency. By bat crazy people who refuse to believe in biology or that women deserve dignity and privacy. What is wrong with people?

Indeed! Unconscionable lying bastards that they are. I'd say it's unbelievable, but it's not, is it?

Like MrsOverton says, I really don't think trust can be restored. In the NHS, the government or the Labour Party. But more deeply than that, in democracy itself. Or the human race in general. There's plenty of nihilism all around us and who can be surprised, frankly.

On a more pedestrian note, DC is thinking of going into a career that requires NHS involvement, and I'm seriously considering putting her off.

Tbh, I think the issues with the NHS are bigger than their ignoring of the law in this area.
They've been harming mothers and babies for years through inadequate maternity care with no consequences.
The Thirwall Inquiry that reported last week was critical of the repeated lack of safeguarding for the most vulnerable newborns.
That's just 2 from a depressing list

I'm not sure how we can ever restore confidence when all this is led / enabled by senior staff in the NHS who never get any consequences for their actions.

It’s about time somebody tackled Yvette Cooper about this stuff. She must surely oversee NHS England and hospitals (both of who are busy preparing to write big cheques to women).

You can't trust them an inch, can you?

This may need its own thread, but in the meantime:

https://x.com/CConcern/status/2102045706773029152

BREAKING: Health minister Karin Smyth has told the Darlington nurses there is no plan for new NHS rules on single-sex spaces, despite the government previously promising action and institutions repeatedly saying they are 'waiting for guidance' following the Supreme Court ruling 18 months ago.

Bethany Hutchison and Annice Grundy met the minister in Leeds following the nurses’ landmark employment tribunal victory, supported by the Christian Legal Centre.

The nurses warned that, without clear national rules, NHS trusts remain free to impose policies that undermine the privacy, dignity and safety of female staff.

Bethany said: “The government has had long enough. The law is clear. Women should not have to go to court simply to secure a safe place to change.”

The Darlington nurses are calling for urgent, legally compliant NHS guidance protecting single-sex spaces.

See more on our website and breaking with the Daily Express.

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/health-minister-tells-darlington-nurses-there-is-no-plan-for-new-nhs-rules-on-single-sex-spaces/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2250309/nhs-biological-sex-gender-hospitals

I will never go to heaven because my first thought was that they could get SpecSavers to sponsor it.

That trans people shouldn't bully people who won't tell them they're brave, fearless and definitely female?

It seems like such an inefficient way of doing things. A crazy amount of duplication of effort.

This.

Especially because this is despite the Tribunal ruling going to the media was ‘a protected act.’

Have they no shame? Or brains?

Absolute madness!
The amount of money that would be saved if all policy writing were centralised. And the added efficiency. And improved communication. And increased certainty...

Plus, crucially, you could employ actual clued up experts in the law and regs to write them. Rather than an army of under qualified dummies to copy and paste unlawful dribble.

Too sensible for the NHS, I guess.

Yes!

This is such nonsense. So much money could be saved by centralising this.

That's what Isla Bumba did in the Sandie Peggie case.

Where “reinventing the wheel” often means “cutting and pasting from the policies of the trust nearest us, because of course they must have bothered to get legal advice - which we are too lazy to do -and didn’t just c&p from somewhere else themselves.”