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David Walliams

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mrpenny · Yesterday 12:16

To Think it could not have been DW??

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nomas · Yesterday 15:28

mrpenny · Yesterday 15:10

I think I wrote it???🙄🤨In one word….

But what does that mean?

Are you saying the journo who wrote the article 'Noel Fielding's Reddit AMA was deliciously Noel Fielding' was acting deliciously?

ohyesiseethatnow · Yesterday 15:28

cowxst · Yesterday 13:07

Well, we don’t actually know much but abusing his position of power is illegal and apparently involved a 17 year old, which is definitely illegal.

I’m not sure about this.

Abusing his position of power…..he wasn’t these girls teacher or doctor or anything. He was a rich, famous man. Does that automatically mean he can only court rich, famous women?

The girl sending images, not only was she 17 and a half, so legal anyway, she told him she was “old
enough to go drinking” (ie 18).

As a man in his 30s and 40s he pursued younger women. Regardless of whether you see that as a bit ick, it’s not illegal. I don’t really see what he’s done particularly wrong here.

The story of the 15 year old is a different matter entirely. I’m just not sure why it’s being diluted with stories about women in their 20s who he pursued but didn’t actually harm.

nomas · Yesterday 15:28

Flymyprettiesflies · Yesterday 15:27

‘Harper Collins was a sponsor and I was at a table with some of their staff. They told me that they didn't allow any of their young female colleagues to be alone with him.’

same went for Brand, friend said that they wouldn’t let him be alone with any female staff and no woman under 30 around him at all.

All of them are complicit.

Flymyprettiesflies · Yesterday 15:29

‘Oh cmon, he has not been accused of rape,’

this kind of denial is why men like this got to get away with rape, sexual assault abuse of power and all the rest of it for so long even while those working with them knew they couldn’t be trusted around young staff or fans.

nomas · Yesterday 15:30

ohyesiseethatnow · Yesterday 15:28

I’m not sure about this.

Abusing his position of power…..he wasn’t these girls teacher or doctor or anything. He was a rich, famous man. Does that automatically mean he can only court rich, famous women?

The girl sending images, not only was she 17 and a half, so legal anyway, she told him she was “old
enough to go drinking” (ie 18).

As a man in his 30s and 40s he pursued younger women. Regardless of whether you see that as a bit ick, it’s not illegal. I don’t really see what he’s done particularly wrong here.

The story of the 15 year old is a different matter entirely. I’m just not sure why it’s being diluted with stories about women in their 20s who he pursued but didn’t actually harm.

Well the Queen paid Virginia Giuffre £9 million pound because she had sex with Andrew when she was 17 so I don't think men having sex with 17 year old is an unproblematic as you claim.

Clue is in the words 'Abuse of power'.

Ved · Yesterday 15:31

mrpenny · Yesterday 12:16

To Think it could not have been DW??

Worst kept secret ever. Do keep up @mrpenny 😆

TouchMyBumThisIsLife · Yesterday 15:32

I wonder what David is up to now.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 15:32

AStonedRose · Yesterday 15:19

Confused by the multiple posters defending DW. Clearly there are loads of men who post here. Even if he's not a rapist, he's sexually assaulted kids. He's a nonce.

Unfortunately, I reckon the large majority of men would behave like this, if they thought they could get away with it.

I don’t see anybody on here defending him.

Firesidechatter · Yesterday 15:35

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 15:32

I don’t see anybody on here defending him.

No no ine has defended him, inaccuracies have been corrected, but that is not defending him, the thread will be pulled if people just make stuff up and post it,

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 15:35

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 15:04

We don’t know what went on in private!

No, we don't. We don't know that you haven't sexually assaulted someone, either but we don't allege it because WE DON'T KNOW.

Why aren't you grasping such a basic fact? I can only think you're being deliberately obtuse or gosdy.

mrpenny · Yesterday 15:36

Ved · Yesterday 15:31

Worst kept secret ever. Do keep up @mrpenny 😆

oh for goodness sake…I was being ironic as a way of announcing the news. Do keep up..🤨🙄

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · Yesterday 15:36

Firesidechatter · Yesterday 15:35

No no ine has defended him, inaccuracies have been corrected, but that is not defending him, the thread will be pulled if people just make stuff up and post it,

Totally agree.

Firesidechatter · Yesterday 15:36

TouchMyBumThisIsLife · Yesterday 15:32

I wonder what David is up to now.

I think he’s in a secure psychiatric hospital.

Bundleflower · Yesterday 15:36

KidsDoBetter · Yesterday 15:27

I don't agree with his attempt to silence the media with this threat - either morally or legally.

But I don't think its in good taste to speculate excatly when a child's father might take their own life.

I do accept however that by running this argument through the court, he has brought this discussion into the public domain so there we are.

FWIW I feel that if was seriously going to do it, it would be done by now. I don't think he will.

Here I am speculating ... hypocritically.

Perhaps not in good taste but neither is this entire thing.
I’ve been on the affected end of suicide, including it used as a control method, so I’m probably a little too matter of fact in this instance. Apologies if it came off crass. I do believe he’ll go ahead as his final chance to be able to control any narrative, hypothetically, of course.

mrpenny · Yesterday 15:37

nomas · Yesterday 15:28

But what does that mean?

Are you saying the journo who wrote the article 'Noel Fielding's Reddit AMA was deliciously Noel Fielding' was acting deliciously?

Forget it. Some people need guides on here …

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WakingUpToReality · Yesterday 15:43

How awful to see Jonathan Ross and others making jokes about sex with 15 year olds. How was that ever considered funny? My daughter is 14 and so young, they are only one year older! When will our culture stamp this out? I hope this is the beginning of the end.

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 15:43

That article shows that the threat of abuse of power at work largely comes from men.
We know that men can be abused but as per your article that predominantly stems from other men.

trythisforsize · Yesterday 15:44

Firesidechatter · Yesterday 15:00

Oh cmon, he has not been accused of rape, if you prefer that language better. The worst he’s been accused of is kissing a fifteen year olds breast, which is heinous in itself, and is sexual assault, but is not a rape allegation.

sucked, not kissed.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 15:44

A couple of posters seem unable to grasp that you can loathe and despise David Williams while at the same time understand the importance of discussing only what is known publicly. Legal cases may follow and/or this thread could get pulled.

Not one person on this thread is defending him, they are being very clear about clarifying what is currently known from what a few are speculating. Those latter few would clearly be hopeless on a jury.

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 15:45

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Yesterday 15:35

No, we don't. We don't know that you haven't sexually assaulted someone, either but we don't allege it because WE DON'T KNOW.

Why aren't you grasping such a basic fact? I can only think you're being deliberately obtuse or gosdy.

Then it’s best not to make any statements like that until you do know!

PrincessScarlett · Yesterday 15:46

WakingUpToReality · Yesterday 15:43

How awful to see Jonathan Ross and others making jokes about sex with 15 year olds. How was that ever considered funny? My daughter is 14 and so young, they are only one year older! When will our culture stamp this out? I hope this is the beginning of the end.

Back in the day there was an awful lot of jokes about underage girls. Billie Piper turning 16 had a daily countdown on Radio 1. Bill Wyman dating 14 year old Mandy Smith was in every single tabloid newspaper and not in a negative way. And don't forget 16 year old Sam Fox doing page 3.

Ved · Yesterday 15:46

mrpenny · Yesterday 15:36

oh for goodness sake…I was being ironic as a way of announcing the news. Do keep up..🤨🙄

Ooooh, tetchy! 😬

Limeandfigs · Yesterday 15:48

I've watched the documentary on YouTube now.

I admit, given the build up and speculation, I was expecting something worse, along the lines of Saville or Brand.

I think the worst that could be said about Walliams is that he's clearly a total creep with fuck all boundaries and a complete lack of propriety. But he doesn't seem to be a rapist or a paedophile.

It will be interesting to see if any prosecutions come from this. The assault on the 15-year-old victim would be criminal for sure, but the CPS will want to see a certain level of evidence before bringing a charge.

viques · Yesterday 15:49

Happyjoe · Yesterday 12:45

Wait for it....

An apology from the BBC, ITV who didn't act on the many complaints and they 'will learn from this and do better'.

I am totally fed up with people, men, abusing their power. I know it's a story as old as the hills but for gods sake, will it ever end?

Swiftly followed by DW booking himself into the Priory ( other expensive clinics are available) on the grounds that he is having mental health issues which will be sorted in a matter of two or three weeks hallelujah, it’s another Priory miracle.

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