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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:32

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 20:30

That they’re not simultaneously blind, deaf, mute, illiterate, and crap at interpretative dance?

As far as assumptions go it’s not a particularly bold one.

sit down will you 🤭

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 20:35

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:32

sit down will you 🤭

I know you believe you’re coming out with sparkling and totally thread-relevant witticisms, but please stop. You’re truly awful at it.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:36

You presume an awful lot
absolute nonsense
stop coming after me ☺

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 20:39

you presume a lot dont you

Pot..meet kettle.

Cakeandcookies · 04/04/2024 20:40

Your other half doesn't seem particularly bothered and you are right he should step up. I do however feel sorry for the step children. Of they are going to be left home alone what is the point of them being there at all? Also playing out with friends and not being sure where they are at the age of 12 would be a no from me. I hope he steps up for all of your sakes.

Pleeaaaaaase · 04/04/2024 20:41

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:34

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

You clearly have no idea of how powerless you feel, when your children are in the home of your Ex Partner and his new wife. You have zero control, and just hear about what goes on after the fact.

I have no doubt that these children feel excluded and like second class citizens. It's not their fault that their Dad had new children with a new woman. At least try to include them and make them feel like family, rather than an annoyance. It will pay in dividends as they grow up.

I have no doubt that these children feel excluded and like second class citizens. It's not their fault that their dad had new children with a new woman.

That's very true. It's also not their fault that their mum and dad didn't stay together in the first place but no one ever seems to care about that bit. If people want a nuclear family and have their children not be stepchildren and be the sole focus of everything you do then they should BE one. After all, they knew what they were getting into when they had kids together. Suck it up, stay together and put those poor, poor children first.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:43

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 20:39

you presume a lot dont you

Pot..meet kettle.

Oh you again
block button needed

Pleeaaaaaase · 04/04/2024 20:43

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:29

Well, given that only 45% of marriages last, I'm sure that in about 8 years time, it will be your two children sitting at home all alone, when their Step mum goes out for the day with the "new" children. But that'll be ok with you, because it's what you did yourself. Right?

Your DH shouldn't be working when his kids are at yours, that much is clear, BUT, if he has to go in for an emergency, then of course you should include ALL children in whatever activities are taking place. If you're not willing to do that, then you shouldn't have married a man who already had kids.

This reminds me of my own kids Step mum, who used to take her own children in the car to school and leave mine to walk. Still makes me really upset and it's over 10 years ago now.

Well, given that only 45% of marriages last, I'm sure that in about 8 years time, it will be your two children sitting at home all alone, when their Step mum goes out for the day with the "new" children. But that'll be ok with you, because it's what you did yourself. Right?

What on earth??? How is OP's behaviour now in ANY way going to influence the behaviour of a fictional someone else in the future??? What a ridiculous thing to say! OP could be the most attentive, self-sacrificing, boundary-less individual waiting on her step kids hand and foot and not stepping out of the house unless it's to cater to them at all times and she still would have no say in what happens with their (fictional) future step mother!

Janiie · 04/04/2024 20:45

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 20:18

And yet they don't, while at an age where they can definitely make their wishes on. So maybe, just maybe they're not you and not particularly bothered about this set up?

Kids tend to be very loyal to their parents. Even absent ones like the df and disinterested ones like his wife. They sometimes need guiding. So while they may not say 'we feel really unwelcome in your house and don't want to visit anynmore', if someone said, 'you know if you'd rather stay at home and see your friends and actually have fun at a weekend that is fine', well they could say ok yes thankyou!

They may not of course but someone, anyone, needs to talk to these poor kids.

uneffingbelievable · 04/04/2024 20:46

I have 3 DSCs now older than OPS - if I am in the house and making my lunch I ask them if they want anything, Dad often not in the house. If i am going out I tell them what is around to eat and what not to touch

Likewise washing - I tell them washing will be done on x day - put what they want in the whites or coloureds basket- hand washed stuff they do themselves.

Sorry this whole I make lunch for my two but not the others, wash mine but not his -is really petty. He does the same.

OP is point scoring against her DP and using the children to do it -seriously that says more about OP than anyone else.

And the mother goes out for a meal occasionally leaving her 14 yr old to baby sit the 12 yr old - normal family development for a few hours - but not the whole day.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 20:48

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:36

You presume an awful lot
absolute nonsense
stop coming after me ☺

Dude, you popped up to reply some shite at me 😂

You’ve been free not to engage me this whole time, so please do take your own advice.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 20:48

uneffingbelievable · 04/04/2024 20:46

I have 3 DSCs now older than OPS - if I am in the house and making my lunch I ask them if they want anything, Dad often not in the house. If i am going out I tell them what is around to eat and what not to touch

Likewise washing - I tell them washing will be done on x day - put what they want in the whites or coloureds basket- hand washed stuff they do themselves.

Sorry this whole I make lunch for my two but not the others, wash mine but not his -is really petty. He does the same.

OP is point scoring against her DP and using the children to do it -seriously that says more about OP than anyone else.

And the mother goes out for a meal occasionally leaving her 14 yr old to baby sit the 12 yr old - normal family development for a few hours - but not the whole day.

So you do exactly what OP does. Why is she in the wrong and you're not?

Pleeaaaaaase · 04/04/2024 20:53

I sort of gave up after page 17 of comments so apologies if this has already been addressed - but what if OP didn't have children of her own? What if, rather than a prearranged aquarium trip, her plans were going to get her nails done or a boozy brunch with a friend? DH still chooses to work at the weekend and still only gives her 24 hours notice - would people still be clamouring for OP to stay behind and look after the children all day? Or that she cancels her plans last minute to take them out to something they want to do? Or that she take them along with her?

I'm guessing not.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:59

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 20:48

Dude, you popped up to reply some shite at me 😂

You’ve been free not to engage me this whole time, so please do take your own advice.

Sitting ready to pounce on me like an animal as soon as I post 😆 this thread is lost on you

justasking111 · 04/04/2024 20:59

@PickledFrog as a step mum responsibility wise you're doing well feeding four children, washing for four children. Working full time.

Your husband and his ex I'm not impressed with

Janiie · 04/04/2024 21:00

Pleeaaaaaase · 04/04/2024 20:53

I sort of gave up after page 17 of comments so apologies if this has already been addressed - but what if OP didn't have children of her own? What if, rather than a prearranged aquarium trip, her plans were going to get her nails done or a boozy brunch with a friend? DH still chooses to work at the weekend and still only gives her 24 hours notice - would people still be clamouring for OP to stay behind and look after the children all day? Or that she cancels her plans last minute to take them out to something they want to do? Or that she take them along with her?

I'm guessing not.

It is a shit situation, but it's between her and her dh. So either leave him or accept it but to leave a 12yr and 14yr to their own devices while they are supposed to be part of the family is not ok.

People need to really think hard about setting up home with someone who already has kids. I struggle to believe that this man has not displayed selfish behaviour previously. But she married him, added more kids to the situation so what does she expect. A different husband?

TitaniasAss · 04/04/2024 21:03

These poor kids. No one really seems to be looking out for them.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 21:03

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 20:59

Sitting ready to pounce on me like an animal as soon as I post 😆 this thread is lost on you

Sure hun, if you say so. Quit quoting me then whining when you get the attention you clearly want.

Here’s your star, now please do what you claim to want and move along.

To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?
Pootle23 · 04/04/2024 21:03

I’m not sure why the DSC come over at all. If they don’t see their Dad just what is the point? I feel sorry for them.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 21:04

Pootle23 · 04/04/2024 21:03

I’m not sure why the DSC come over at all. If they don’t see their Dad just what is the point? I feel sorry for them.

Because they live their half the time and don’t seem to have a problem with the status quo. Nor it seems does their mother.

Yetmorebeanstocount · 04/04/2024 21:04

I applaud the OP for refusing to be the 'default' parent to DSC. It is not okay for men to assume this or force women into this position.
But she needs to do more to try and make DH step up - however long and earnest conversations are probably all she can do, other than leaving him.
I would hope he wouldn't leave his DC home alone all day if he had no partner at all.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 21:04

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 21:03

Sure hun, if you say so. Quit quoting me then whining when you get the attention you clearly want.

Here’s your star, now please do what you claim to want and move along.

and again 🤣🤣🤣
pathetic really 😆

Janiie · 04/04/2024 21:08

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 21:04

Because they live their half the time and don’t seem to have a problem with the status quo. Nor it seems does their mother.

They don't know it isn't ok. Kids go along with all kinds of crap and accept it. I bet when they're older they'll have a problem with the disinterest they experienced visiting their absent dad and his very very busy wife.

Pleeaaaaaase · 04/04/2024 21:08

Janiie · 04/04/2024 21:00

It is a shit situation, but it's between her and her dh. So either leave him or accept it but to leave a 12yr and 14yr to their own devices while they are supposed to be part of the family is not ok.

People need to really think hard about setting up home with someone who already has kids. I struggle to believe that this man has not displayed selfish behaviour previously. But she married him, added more kids to the situation so what does she expect. A different husband?

Not answering my question at all.

And all that nonsense about not setting up home with someone who already has kids is a pointless thing to say -it's already done. Marrying someone who has kids does not mean you wordlessly take on all their neglected childcare duties - what you're thinking of is an interview for a nanny position.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 21:09

Janiie · 04/04/2024 21:08

They don't know it isn't ok. Kids go along with all kinds of crap and accept it. I bet when they're older they'll have a problem with the disinterest they experienced visiting their absent dad and his very very busy wife.

Or they genuinely don’t think there’s a problem. You wanting to believe they secretly have a problem with it, or that they’re bound to at some indeterminate date in the future, doesn’t mean they actually do or will.