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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
RawBloomers · 04/04/2024 18:52

TeenLifeMum · 04/04/2024 18:20

The thing I can’t get my head around in this post is that you are regularly organising things on Saturdays for your younger dc and not factoring in dh or dsc. Presumably you planned to take younger ones and leave dh with older two - reality being he’d just be home while they game and ignore him. You’re not working as a family and dh is opting out. The set up is weird like a two tier family and while dh is mostly responsible, you’re not blameless.

She is factoring the DSC. She knows what they like and isn’t pushing them to join her and the younger children when it’s not to their tastes. She asks when she thinks they might like it. She takes them with her when she plans something they will like. She factors in that they are capable of looking after themselves and getting themselves food and that their parents are happy for them to do so.

OP’s issue here is only that, despite her DH being happy to leave his kids to look after themselves during the day, and uses that as an excuse to make his own plans without consultation, he still wants his wife to do things without even being asked that he has stated are not necessary and that he is happy to have not happen if doing so would require him not doing what he wants.

Jewel52 · 04/04/2024 18:53

Janiie · 04/04/2024 18:03

'How are they ‘as bad as each other’? One is the parent actually responsible for providing care for his children. The other is OP who quite reasonably isn’t prepared to just accept what her husband is trying to dump on her. His failings aren’t on her.'

Because adults should do better. The kids deserve better. The op shouldn't treat her stepkids like guests, they are part of the family, her dc's siblings. They should not just be 'asked' but actually made to feel welcome.

Of course her dh is a shit but she married him, then had more kids with him! Confused

Do you live in a Disney film?

Janiie · 04/04/2024 18:55

MissHarrietBede · 04/04/2024 18:38

There is clearly an axe to grind with errant dh and who can blame you. Stop taking it out on the kids though.

OMG 😂

What are you OMG'ing at? The ops negative attitude is clear in all her posts! I can imagine more so irl.

Yes she shouldn't have to look after the dsc as her dh said they don't need looking after (did she mention that?!) But really her problem is with her 'd'h and I pity the poor teens at their supposed second home having such a shit time with no one seemingly bothered about them.

Yetagain35 · 04/04/2024 18:56

Vod · 04/04/2024 18:45

Nope, saw it. Actually it makes the fact that you chose a non mixed age group, toddler free example to tell OP her DSD would've helped look after the kids even more telling.

That’s how some good relationships are made between half siblings - my youngest DS adored his big DSD because she engaged with him in similar settings - they have interests in common as a result even now . I’m not talking about a Cinderella type set up !

MissHarrietBede · 04/04/2024 18:59

The older DC are left starving and foraging in bins and stepmum swans off for fun with the littlies, while dad slaves down the mine at weekends.

🙄

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 18:59

Yetagain35 · 04/04/2024 18:46

It’s your DP at fault OP more than you . It’s just basic kindness though to make sure these DSCs have what they need for the day . Fully get they might well want to do their own thing all day anyway . Both of mine would quite happily be out all day with their friends , but at that age they also still want family time too . Reckon you and DP need a conversation about this rather than it being an argument though . A bit of compromise is needed about weekend working and what happens when it’s necessary

OP does make sure they have what they need for the day, she also lets them know she's leaving and checks they're ok. She's also home most of the times at least one day at the weekend, and even if she wasn't, how long do you think days out with toddlers are? It's not like they're going on three day benders.

Nevermind all the family time in the week, when she cooks for them and looks after them.

Everyone having a go at her is basically having a go for occasionally having plans with her younger children. Like millions of mums all around the world.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 19:00

MissHarrietBede · 04/04/2024 18:59

The older DC are left starving and foraging in bins and stepmum swans off for fun with the littlies, while dad slaves down the mine at weekends.

🙄

But he must love them because he works weekends. GrinGrin

Janiie · 04/04/2024 19:01

Jewel52 · 04/04/2024 18:53

Do you live in a Disney film?

Nope. Plenty of experience of mixed families though and this one sounds shit.

The dh should do stuff with his kids, the op should understand that toddlers and teens do indeed mix absolutely fine. They all eat for starters so ooh I don't know, lunch or tea out all together maybe?

They'll stop their visits soon, then the op can only hope when her own are teens they don't have a stepparent similarly disinterested in them.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 19:01

@Janiie how do you know they are having a shit time? Where did you get that particular information from?

HollyKnight · 04/04/2024 19:02

diddl · 04/04/2024 18:31

But none of those parents are just pissing off when their children are at theirs specifically to spend time with them are they?

The older children aren't visiting. It's their home. It's no different. This is exactly how mine and many other non-blended families work. Teens like a rest after a week of school and activities. Pre-school children still need entertained. It's you and others on here who are making out that the older children are not part of the family and so need to be treated differently/special.

TeaGinandFags · 04/04/2024 19:06

OP, make your own plans for the weekend with the little ones away from the house. Spend a weekend with a friend or family so he can sort out his own kids and understand that you're not there to pick up his pieces.

Janiie · 04/04/2024 19:09

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 19:01

@Janiie how do you know they are having a shit time? Where did you get that particular information from?

Hmm. The tone of her posts? The way she talks about the dsc? The op comes across full of bitterness and resentment at her self employed dh, understandably so, however if it's clear online I can only imagine how shit it is irl to live amongst all the axe grinding.

So yep. I'm betting a tenner those kids are having a shit time whilst guests in the op's home.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 19:10

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 18:43

I presume his wage all goes in the same pot ? so you and the children can benefit from it. So work as a team and help to parent together. Cant be benefiting from his wage while calling him unreasonable for working. Can't have it both ways either.
Bad communication.

Nope we have separate finances always have

OP posts:
MissHarrietBede · 04/04/2024 19:15

@PickledFrog You must be amazed at some of the grim scenarios cooked up by some posters here. Not sure if you've been accused of beating them black and blue yet. I'll wait....

Vod · 04/04/2024 19:19

Yetagain35 · 04/04/2024 18:56

That’s how some good relationships are made between half siblings - my youngest DS adored his big DSD because she engaged with him in similar settings - they have interests in common as a result even now . I’m not talking about a Cinderella type set up !

Yep, nobody's saying its impossible. But it was still a big reach to say they'd probably have enjoyed it, especially not on the basis of a very different excursion.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 19:20

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 18:46

OP pays half of everything, you presume wrong... again.

Every single scenario you made up to make OP look and feel awful has been wrong so far. Every single one. You can keep trying , or simply accept OP is not the wicked stepmother you want her to be.

And you're right of course.
She started the thread and has bolted
There are lots of things to consider here who are you my stalker 😑

DreamTheMoors · 04/04/2024 19:22

I think this is the beginning of a really scary story in the Daily Fail.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 19:22

@Janiie nope. What comes across is the frustration with the double standards and that her husband doesn't even bother to ask because "they can look after themselves ". Which is really what she was asking about. He can't have it both ways.

Astariel · 04/04/2024 19:24

It really depresses me how many women on MN see ‘man goes out to work’ as entirely unchallengeable. How dare anyone have any problem with anything when he’s decided to go to work.

Even more so when, actually, he’s not working for his family at all. His wife is paying her way (and I bet ends up with the majority or all of the costs for the shared children) but still so many MNers seem to think marriage vows say ‘I’ll be a childcare and housework appliance for you - even if they’re not my kids’. And worse than that, some of these MNers are determined that’s how it should be.

I wish people would raise the bar for fathers and stop blaming women for men’s failings.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 19:25

@paulaparticles so she doesn't just have to run around after her kids,her husband, her stepkids , she has to perform for you too , on YOUR schedule?

Have you considered she's busy with said kids ,or working ? Plus she has replied plenty of times, last one a few minutes ago and engaged despite the complete bonkers made up scenarios that keep being thrown at her.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 19:26

TeaGinandFags · 04/04/2024 19:06

OP, make your own plans for the weekend with the little ones away from the house. Spend a weekend with a friend or family so he can sort out his own kids and understand that you're not there to pick up his pieces.

Some advice there for a blended family
Will end well that

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 19:27

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 19:10

Nope we have separate finances always have

Well he has 4 to financially support while you have only 2. So he must NEED to work more.

Astariel · 04/04/2024 19:28

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 19:27

Well he has 4 to financially support while you have only 2. So he must NEED to work more.

Jesus wept. Some people will do anything to justify men’s shit behaviour.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 19:31

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 19:27

Well he has 4 to financially support while you have only 2. So he must NEED to work more.

Then he needs to sort out childcare for his older two without dumping it on OP.

SuperGreens · 04/04/2024 19:33

He's got a cheek hasnt he! Of course they need a parent around, 12 & 14 are not old enough to be regularly left alone all day. But instead he pretends this is not the case, and the gets shitty with you for not doing his job of taking care of them - when he wont even acknowledge it needs to be done, let alone have the common decency to ask you first. Id struggle to have any respect for this man as a partner and a father.