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To not be ok with race-based segregation?

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jbeble · 14/12/2023 09:00

In Boston USA, the Mayor holds parties for 'elected of colour' only. It's been a long road for racism, segregation, discrimination of minorities to be recognised and punished as the crimes that they are. What are we trying to achieve here?

AIBU to think that democratically elected representatives of the people should know better than to promote and/or support segregation?

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MsMarch · 14/12/2023 18:11

In media training, we tell people that reporters cover, winners-losers, heroes-villains and controversies and rows. It's a basic fact of journalism.

This is what this is.

It is true that many of the news reports on this are, by the way they're reporting it, "Michelle Wu defends her decision to..." or "Backlash against Boston Mayors exclusion of white" you could argue that the newspapers are taking a particular slant. But I'm not sure we should take that as a definitive agreement that therefore everyone agrees her decision was wrong, or that the newspapers are exactly unbiased. Look at the UK publications reporting this story. Well, the Telegraph for a start. hahahahaha. Then The Times - I read The Times, but the truth is that the underlying racism that runs through it at times has made me consider cancelling my subscription and is the main reason that even though I WANT to, I have not cancelled the FT. Tabloids... well, I don't need to say anything there I guess.

YireosDodeAver · 14/12/2023 18:16

@Mooshamoo Yes my workplace (a university) has a womens network and specific Women in Science events which are for women only because the mixed sex events tend to get dominated by older men (incidentally usually white) and having women only events helps our career development and boosts confidence in a way that men don't need because the patriarchy has already given them a head start. Yes its a publicly funded university. Yes there are also BAME network events and LGBTQ events which are similarly exclusive of those who don't qualify for them, and plenty of events which are open to all - and the existence of the events for minorities helps people to feel able to have a voice and feel supported and included in the open-to-all events because the closed events have built up supportive bonds between colleagues with shared experiences.

TinkerTiger · 15/12/2023 00:45

C1N1C · 14/12/2023 10:20

I guess this all depends on the individual.

If you feel you're underrepresented, have a day for your 'type'. If you want to blend in and be treated equally, then these days are promoting segregation.

And it will never be popular when someone highlights the obvious... Black days but no white days. Female-exclusive events but no male exclusive events. LGBTQ+ events but no heterosexual events. It used to be that the white male may have had advantages, but now inclusivity quotas mean he's often the last to be employed

Wow that’s so sad, I hope those white men are ok 😢

EtiennePalmiere · 15/12/2023 06:01

You're being absolutely ridiculous, it's no different than women only networking events.

For some context, Boston has a reputation and history as being a quite racist city, so it's not surprising that now they're taking steps to combat that.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 15/12/2023 06:59

Won't anyone think of the poor white men Confused

YireosDodeAver · 15/12/2023 07:35

It's really only possible to have this pity-the-poor-white-people attitude or to see any kind of racism here if you are so up your own arse with over-entitled privilege that you simply have no idea how much of a head-start being born into a majority demographic gives you.

In fact, nothing that counteracts that head-start can be construed as discriminatory.

Nancydraws · 15/12/2023 09:16

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 15/12/2023 09:25

Amused and disgusted in equal measure that some posters have a problem with oppressed groups meeting to celebrate acheivments and discuss obstacles with people who have experienced the same. And apparently anyone who doesn't have a problem with a meeting like that is a white saviour

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YireosDodeAver · 15/12/2023 09:26

I don't hate my skin colour (which passes for tanned white but is naturally darker than typical caucasian) and am not trying to save anyone. I just don't have a mindset where I feel I have to selfishly snatch at opportunities and resources that aren't intended for me, out of some kind of fear of missing out. It's basic respect for fellow human beings. I am sorry that so many people don't have that, but it's not my job to fix you.

jbeble · 15/12/2023 09:43

Err...This was not about fomo?

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throwawayimplantchat · 15/12/2023 09:44

YireosDodeAver · 15/12/2023 09:26

I don't hate my skin colour (which passes for tanned white but is naturally darker than typical caucasian) and am not trying to save anyone. I just don't have a mindset where I feel I have to selfishly snatch at opportunities and resources that aren't intended for me, out of some kind of fear of missing out. It's basic respect for fellow human beings. I am sorry that so many people don't have that, but it's not my job to fix you.

Well said.

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