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To not be ok with race-based segregation?

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jbeble · 14/12/2023 09:00

In Boston USA, the Mayor holds parties for 'elected of colour' only. It's been a long road for racism, segregation, discrimination of minorities to be recognised and punished as the crimes that they are. What are we trying to achieve here?

AIBU to think that democratically elected representatives of the people should know better than to promote and/or support segregation?

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Mooshamoo · 14/12/2023 17:44

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40 is quite some dedication. But reputable news sources tend to present facts, rather than offer judgments. "Has been critcised" "defends" etc =/= she was wrong.
Even fox News doesn't say "she was wrong". I think you're just imagining what you wish it said.

ghostyslovesheets · 14/12/2023 17:45

can you find a link showing SHE sent and retracted the invite - it was the first party of it's kind and no one on the staff knew of it's existence? because that seems to be what you are upset about

Neitheronethingnortheother · 14/12/2023 17:45

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So you are staying because the posters of colour weren't "nice" enough so you have decided to stay and lecture them further on how they are discussing what you consider to be racism wrong?

How original!

Myfabby · 14/12/2023 17:46

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AppleCrispMacchiato · 14/12/2023 17:48

Myfabby · 14/12/2023 16:23

Historically for much of the time the Greek System has existed, ALL sororities were white-only. Even today, many sororities are white-only in practice (or rarely if ever accept black candidates), even if they obviously don't promote themselves that way.

The entire reason black sororities were invented in the first place is because at the time, all sororities were white-only.

Queucumber · 14/12/2023 17:48

so have you found one website that says that she was correct yet.

Well, this one. Unless you meant a news website in which case I think you’re misunderstanding what news media are supposed to do. They report the news. They don’t say, X happened today and I think that was awful/wonderful. That’s opinion. It’s a totally understandable mistake to make if you’ve been exposed to Fox News for any period of time.

colourblinded · 14/12/2023 17:49

ghostyslovesheets · 14/12/2023 17:42

that she invited white people and then invited them specifically because they are white she didn't - one of her STAFF did#

The party is NOT a secret event 0 it's held every year - and it's known to staff

I know you are trying very hard to be outraged but I'm not sure what the issues is - except that one white male felt it was divertive (when the other staff didn't give a tiny rats wank).

The party is NO LONGER a secret, it has been taking place for years, but other council members were not aware of it, more importantly, taxpayers were not aware that it was funded from public funds.
Had the party - rightly celebrating the electoral success of those candidates - been paid for by the attendees or their supporters, this would have been a non-story.
The secretive use of public funds suggested privilege.

RancidRuby · 14/12/2023 17:51

Laughing at the poster who needs to be told by a "website" when something is right or wrong, can't you just decide for yourself or does that require a bit too much thinking?

ghostyslovesheets · 14/12/2023 17:51

Here's the offended poor white man - quote in the press

Citing recent tensions on the City Council, Baker did not speculate about the reasoning behind the mayor's decision to host the party but said he did not think it was a "good move."
"I find it unfortunate that with the temperature the way it is, that we would further division," he added

he goes on to say

Baker said he was not personally insulted by the decision.
"I don't really get offended too easily," he said. "To offend me, you're going to have to do much more than not invite me to a party."

so even he is not as outraged as you seem to be!

AppleCrispMacchiato · 14/12/2023 17:53

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There are tons of sororities in the US that do not have a single black member, and who have been accused of systemic racism within the past few years.

It's extremely goady to pretend that anything short of explicitly verbally stating "NO BLACKS" doesn't 'count' as racism.

This is a massive problem with racism on Mumsnet, the insistence that only overtly saying that you hate black people counts as real racism, anything less than that, just magically isn't racist according to the "the only real racism is anti-white racism" brigade.

ghostyslovesheets · 14/12/2023 17:53

The party is NO LONGER a secret, it has been taking place for years, but other council members were not aware of it, more importantly, taxpayers were not aware that it was funded from public funds

I think you struggle with understanding The News - the party, held ANNUALLY by the Elected of Colour Group' invite her to host this year - it's not her party

ghostyslovesheets · 14/12/2023 17:55

Just to clear it up for you - the Elected of Colour Group is not a secret organisation and it's party are not held undercover

SerafinasGoose · 14/12/2023 17:57

RancidRuby · 14/12/2023 17:51

Laughing at the poster who needs to be told by a "website" when something is right or wrong, can't you just decide for yourself or does that require a bit too much thinking?

Init. It's unsurprising that the right wing media in the US and UK are the ones mostly making a song and dance about it. Nor is it difficult to guess at the reason.

It's hardly as though the right-wing media are in any way subtle.

Illustrativedesigns · 14/12/2023 18:01

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I don't think you understand how news reporting works.

The news reports are all reporting on the fact that the Boston Mayor did not invite some white people to a party (that is a fact). Many are also reporting that there was a social media backlash (there was). Reporting on those two things is not, intrinsically, a sign that therefore the backlash was correct.... Or even, for that matter, nearly as bad as it would seem.

Illustrativedesigns · 14/12/2023 18:03

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Oliotya · 14/12/2023 18:05

If you say the word "white" enough, it summons the racists. Interesting.

Illustrativedesigns · 14/12/2023 18:05

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AppleCrispMacchiato · 14/12/2023 18:07

Myfabby · 14/12/2023 16:54

you omitted the pitchforks and mob action. People of colour bingo complete!

No no, to complete the MN Racism Bingo you also need -

*I don't see colour ergo I'm the real anti-racist

*Critical Race Theory is an American invention, it has no bearing here.

with everyone online saying that she was wrong.

The only people saying she's wrong are racists and far right clickbait sites.

@Myfabbyso have you found one website that says that she was correct yet.

Stop being goady. No news outlet is going to report "Person Does Ordinary Thing Which Is Perfectly Fine" because that's not news. This is only news to those who have an agenda to portray this as racist, which is why the only news outlets whipping up outrage are those known to be extremely right leaning.

To compare, look at left wing/LGBTQ press reporting on GC women making "transphobic" tweets. Can you find me one single news outlet printing, "Ordinary Woman Tweets Random Perfectly Fine and Uncontroversial Personal Opinion"? No, because it's only news if you are portraying it as offensive.

No news outlet in the world is going to print "Random person has party." That is not a news story.

That is why this mayor is facing huge backlash
A few racist trolls and a far right Trump-worshipping clickbait channel is not a "huge backlash."

RancidRuby · 14/12/2023 18:07

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Which news sites have explicitly said that the mayor was in the wrong?

Myfabby · 14/12/2023 18:08

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guys...

c'mon now

change your strategy.

Another poster, with only 4 posts in their history on MN, just happens to be on this thread.

You haven't said froth or lynch yet though.. There is hope yet!

😂

AppleCrispMacchiato · 14/12/2023 18:09

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