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AIBU or did this guy overreact to our dog approaching him?

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MrsH1992 · 05/10/2023 21:04

So we were walking our doodle on the beach who's about a year old and 4kg. Most the beach is no-dogs allowed in summer but this is the only bit they are allowed on. She's usually really good but sometimes has bad recall if she sees someone she knows. There was a guy in a red coat who I think she mistook for my dad as he has a similar coat/ build and she ran over to him and put her front paws up on his knees. We were running after her apologising when the guy tries to repeatedly stomp and kick her. She ran back to me terrified. This guy is now screaming at us and swearing really badly. He has a little kid with him (maybe three) so we say sorry but he needs to calm down. He then threatened us and was trying to square up to my husband. We're just trying to get round him but he's blocking our way (we need to continue along the shore line to get back to our car). In the end we get past but I was on the verge of calling the police.

So I know some people really don't like dogs and we should have her under control but it was the dog section of the beach plus she's tiny. I think he massively overreacted and shouldn't come to the dog beach if he feels that strongly and is liable to loose his temper like that. AIBU?

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Hankunamatata · 05/10/2023 21:18

His reaction was exteme but I kind of get it. I'm sick of being on the beach with kids, building sandcastles etc and bloody dogs running through middle or jumping on the kids or peeing on sand

FletchingStraight · 05/10/2023 21:20

My 3yr old had an absolute freak out in the park when a toy poodle came up to her. She was really really scared of dogs at the time. It was the kids cycling practice area so technically open to the rest of the park but even still. Owner thought it was us that shouldn't have been there & her dog had every right.
YABU

flaxensunshine · 05/10/2023 21:20

I have a miniature dachshund who is 6kg so I highly doubt yours is 4kg!!

keep on the lead! But yes he shouldn’t have threatened you!

Aquestioningmind · 05/10/2023 21:20

He should not have overreacted.

You should not ever let your dog off its leash if its recall isn’t 100%. 99% isn’t good enough.

Put your dog’s safety first and be a more responsible dog owner in future (and I say this as a dog owner!)

rwalker · 05/10/2023 21:20

With dog attacks being very high profile at the moment everyone is on edge especially with an uncontrolled dog jumping on him and him with a small child

I would and I have launch a dog with my foot if it jumped on me or my child
I commute on a cycle path and interactions with off the lead dogs are a regular occurrence I have zero tolerance now

Whilst his reaction may seem extreme the general public have had enough of uncontrolled dogs

just chalk it down to experience and control your dog in future

Completleybonkers · 05/10/2023 21:20

I think his reaction is reasonable for someone that has been set upon by a dog gone AWOL. Especially with a kid to protect. It doesn't really matter if your dog is nice natured, this man's instincts kicked in.

Delatron · 05/10/2023 21:20

What is so annoying about this is that you think it’s fine for your dog to run up to people and jump up at them - especially when they have small children with them. He can react however he likes.

I’m sick of off lead dogs with zero recall running around at the moment. I have a reactive dog (thanks to being attacked as a puppy) we constantly have dogs running up to him and setting him back.

Pumpkinspicelattetime · 05/10/2023 21:22

A year old doodle won't be 4kg.

He shouldn't have squared up to your husband but I wonder if he acted in fear given he had a pre-schooler with him. Sounds like your dog is not ready to be off lead.

Devilsmommy · 05/10/2023 21:24

I too would have kicked your dog. Your dog is nowhere near as important as my child, or any child for that matter

PallyRoe · 05/10/2023 21:24

CatamaranViper · 05/10/2023 21:15

I've just googled and an 8 week old mini doodle puppy is around 4-9lb which is around 4kg.

OP how old is your dog? If they're that young they might only be going on their first walk surely?

Op says that her dog is a one year old…

I’m going to guess closer to 40kg for a doodle at that age. Which explains the man's reaction a bit better.

Either way op, whether you have a chihuahua or a Great Dane, KEEP IT ON A DAMN LEAD.

If you do not know for a fact that you can get that dog to follow your command at any time then they should not be off lead in a public area. Perfect recall is difficult to train, and for some breeds could be nigh on impossible unless you are lucky/extremely persistent.

This is so basic I can’t believe it even needs a explaining to an adult.

There really should be mandatory classes for anyone getting a puppy….

Lostcotter · 05/10/2023 21:27

CatamaranViper · 05/10/2023 21:08

He absolutely should not have threatened you or squared up to your DH, but you absolutely should not have your dog with poor recall off the leader.
If he had had a reactive dog with him and yours ran up, your dog could have been bitten or even killed.

You need to put your dog's safety much higher.

First post nailed it. I was just posting on another thread today about how a dog - possibly a poodle mix type - jumped up on me and scratched me in the process. Luckily for the dog I had a go at the owner (told her to keep her dog on a leash and then reported her to housing management of our building ), but I was very frightened and startled to be honest as it ran and jumped at me and it could have easily bitten me. I can’t say how I’d react if a dog did that again.

Interestingly enough a few weeks later after the dog had jumped on me, I was abroad on holiday and in the hotel lobby some women with her small dog on one of those extendable leads and let it repeatedly jump on a man who was shouting get your dog off me.

He ended up kicking it and police were called. It was a whole drama and he shouldn’t have gone that far but why on earth did she let her dog do that?! Just couldn’t understand.

YABU!

CatamaranViper · 05/10/2023 21:27

PallyRoe · 05/10/2023 21:24

Op says that her dog is a one year old…

I’m going to guess closer to 40kg for a doodle at that age. Which explains the man's reaction a bit better.

Either way op, whether you have a chihuahua or a Great Dane, KEEP IT ON A DAMN LEAD.

If you do not know for a fact that you can get that dog to follow your command at any time then they should not be off lead in a public area. Perfect recall is difficult to train, and for some breeds could be nigh on impossible unless you are lucky/extremely persistent.

This is so basic I can’t believe it even needs a explaining to an adult.

There really should be mandatory classes for anyone getting a puppy….

Edited

Ah sorry I missed that bit!!

My parents dog has always had perfect recall (very difficult to train but worked out in the end) but recently his hearing has started going. The first time he didn't respond to a call was in my care and I was mortified. Ever since he's been on a long line. It's a shame because he doesn't understand why and clearly doesn't like it, but it's not worth the risk!

GreyCarpet · 05/10/2023 21:28

My son was worried by a dog on the beach when he was 3. He's now 24 and still anxious around them.

If you can't look after your dog appropriately then don't have one.

Knivesandforks · 05/10/2023 21:28

You need to keep dog on lead if you dobt have control. Yabu

towriteyoumustlive · 05/10/2023 21:29

Do you mean 14kg? 4kg is tiny!

I'm a dog owner. We walk one dog on lead at all times in public as his recall is shocking. The other is excellent and will not approach anyone unless told its OK.

His aggression may have been excessive but you were absolutely in the wrong to have your dog off lead if it's recall is poor. The child might have been terrified by a dog that jumped up before or similar.

DisquietintheRanks · 05/10/2023 21:29

Just control your f*ing dog. Personally I wouldnt react like this but I'm guessing this guy really didn't like your dog.

As I write my 92 year dstep mother is entirely incapacitated after being knocked over by a "he's so friendly" cockerpoo. She may literally never leave the house alone again, even once she regains the ability to do so. And all because someone couldn't control their dog.

NoNoHellaNoNoHellaNoNo · 05/10/2023 21:30

His reaction was obviously very extreme and not acceptable. That said, he was with a small child, and there is nothing more annoying than someone else’s dog running and jumping at you. It’s just not acceptable and the dog should be under control.

Cas112 · 05/10/2023 21:30

His reaction was not nice but especially with all the attacks in the news, people are a lot more nervous. I guess his fight or flight mode kicked in, especially having his child

KajsaKavat · 05/10/2023 21:31

I LOATHE dogs and bad dog owners because of people like you who don’t see how horribly wrong this all was.

he/she could lick you to death hahaha will never be funny.

control your ducking mutt

2024815pm · 05/10/2023 21:32

I'm going against the grain here OP that guy was an aggressive bully. Yeah your dog shouldn't have run up to him but his response was off the scale aggressive. He kicked your dog and swore at you in front of his 3 year old child. What a prince 😡

Smartiepants79 · 05/10/2023 21:32

He overreacted but I HATE random dogs of any size coming to me and jumping up. She did not get down when told or come back when asked. If he had the chance to try and stomp or kick her more than once then she’s not listening.
Sort out her recall.

Weñor · 05/10/2023 21:32

He shouldn’t have squared up to you or threatened you, but I was knocked over by a small dog on a beach when I was 3 and I’m still terrified of dogs to this day. It is very limiting as I struggle to walk through parks and open spaces etc.

So I can understand his reaction. If I have to walk near a dog or see dogs off lead, I go into flight or fight mode.

Lostcotter · 05/10/2023 21:33

DisquietintheRanks · 05/10/2023 21:29

Just control your f*ing dog. Personally I wouldnt react like this but I'm guessing this guy really didn't like your dog.

As I write my 92 year dstep mother is entirely incapacitated after being knocked over by a "he's so friendly" cockerpoo. She may literally never leave the house alone again, even once she regains the ability to do so. And all because someone couldn't control their dog.

Edited

That’s awful. Not the way to spend her senior years.

The government needs to get a grip on this now. Too many out of control dogs.

Hesma · 05/10/2023 21:34

You should keep your dog in a lead if it has no recall

Lovingitallnow · 05/10/2023 21:34

It's not the dog section of the beach though. It's the part they're allowed on. That's not the same thing. It's also not ideal if he doesn't have recall for people he knows or those who may look like people he knows. Or have a similar coat.