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Face the judge

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Tapasita · 21/08/2023 11:34

Lucy Letby, you cowedly, murdering bitch. Someone should drag her out of her cell by her hair so the victim's families can look at the face of their babies' killer as the judge throws away the key

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Northernsouloldies · 22/08/2023 08:37

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 22/08/2023 08:18

I hope that prison justice brigade comment wasn't aimed at me. I never said I hope she gets attacked I'm saying it's inevitable. Letby is not some hardened criminal able to put up a decent fight, she won't stand a chance against some of the women in prison. Its a fact.

No it wasn't aimed at you specifically, the violent undercurrent to some posts is something else, matchsticks in eyes was quite special. She's been convicted of a heinous crime and she will be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life and because prison is a dangerous environment.

VeronicasCloset · 22/08/2023 08:40

tescocreditcard · 21/08/2023 14:43

I wouldn't enjoy public executions but I do think that people that have been sentenced to life imprisonment should be able to opt for euthanasia. Only if they opt for it though.

I thought the point of a sentence was so they had to endure years of punishment, not take a cowards way out.

Northernsouloldies · 22/08/2023 08:42

Exactly it's loss of freedom and no choice in anything, that's the punishment. Prisons aren't hotels they are noisy, dirty, and dangerous.

ilovesooty · 22/08/2023 08:54

Northernsouloldies · 22/08/2023 08:42

Exactly it's loss of freedom and no choice in anything, that's the punishment. Prisons aren't hotels they are noisy, dirty, and dangerous.

Yes. And women's prisons have many acutely distressed people in them. She's certainly not going to a holiday camp.

CrazyFrogDingDing · 22/08/2023 09:28

Thankfully we live in a civilised country where torture went out with the ark.
Some posters on here would have made brilliant ss officers in the camps with their sadistic and warped views!
Letby committed one of the worst crimes imaginable and god alone knows what suffering those poor parents are enduring, but demanding Letby is present for sentencing, tortured or beaten to death isn't going to bring those poor babies back, nor ease the suffering of the families.

Dolores87 · 22/08/2023 09:36

I dont understand all this constant blood baying and all this "justice is served, justice should be severed" stuff. This is like the 10th thread i have seen on the same topic.

She was convicted and given a whole life order. She's never getting out of prison. The world is now protected from Lucy Letby which is the whole point of prison.

I honestly dont know what violence towards her is meant to achieve. It sure wont bring those babies back or heal their families pain. There is no way to force her to go to court for sentencing and tbh she shouldn't have to because legally you don't have to and Letby, as abhorrent as what she did is, has the same legal rights as every body else and that is as it should be.

DrSbaitso · 22/08/2023 10:25

There is no reaction she can give that will satisfy people to see.

It won't make her feel remorse. She doesn't care. She won't cry or rend her clothing. She probably wouldn't kick or scream either, but if she did, she'd get the attention and cause the disruption that she wants. She might even taunt the families.

In all likelihood, she just wouldn't show any reaction at all.

neverbeenskiing · 22/08/2023 10:40

CrazyFrogDingDing · 22/08/2023 09:28

Thankfully we live in a civilised country where torture went out with the ark.
Some posters on here would have made brilliant ss officers in the camps with their sadistic and warped views!
Letby committed one of the worst crimes imaginable and god alone knows what suffering those poor parents are enduring, but demanding Letby is present for sentencing, tortured or beaten to death isn't going to bring those poor babies back, nor ease the suffering of the families.

Whenever there is a high profile criminal case involving children in the news we see this kind of performative outrage on MN, and on social media in general. It becomes almost competitive, who can be the most upset and angry. Remember Arthur Labinjo- Hughes? Terrible tragedy but people on here went so over the top...posters claiming they were being physically sick and couldn't sleep for days, describing themselves as "traumatised" when it had absolutely nothing to do with them. And of course we had similar calls for the death penalty or torture to be brought back. The posters baying for blood always insist they are doing so out of sympathy for the victims and their families, when of course they haven't got the first clue what the families actually want or need.

What LL did was, of course, despicable and I'm glad she's going to spend the rest of her life behind bars. But people calling for her to be bound and gagged and carried to her sentencing aren't thinking of her victims or families, they want maximum drama.

beeonmybonnett · 22/08/2023 10:49

I just don’t get how somebody who has committed such crimes can be so emotionless? Surely even if they don’t show it, they must feel some sort of empathy or regret? Do they truly not realise the magnitude of what they’ve done / feel that they’ve done nothing wrong?

luckylavender · 22/08/2023 10:51

Tapasita · 21/08/2023 11:45

Sorry but the law needs to change so that convicted criminals are present at the time of their sentences being passed. It's got nothing to do with pitchforks/rotten fruit. How would you feel if you were the victim's families, and your babies' murderer refused to show up? What about your victim impact statement? Would you feel that justice had been truly served?

It wouldn't help my torment & suffering if she turned up or not.

luckylavender · 22/08/2023 10:52

Tapasita · 21/08/2023 11:46

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

Sorry I didn't see the other thread on this before I created mine. But thanks for the personal dig. You sound like a nice, considerate person.

You don't though. She sound a bit unhinged.

Kinneddar · 22/08/2023 13:33

There was footage of the prison van arriving at court so presumably she was there but stayed in the cells. That being the case surely the answer is to video link into the cell. Even a one way one where they can't see or hear her but she has to listen to what's being said

DrSbaitso · 22/08/2023 13:39

Kinneddar · 22/08/2023 13:33

There was footage of the prison van arriving at court so presumably she was there but stayed in the cells. That being the case surely the answer is to video link into the cell. Even a one way one where they can't see or hear her but she has to listen to what's being said

She didn't refuse to attend because she can't stand the guilt and remorse. She has none of either. She refused to attend because she didn't want to be seen while it was happening, and possibly to show her disrespect for everything.

Nothing anyone can do will make her feel guilt or remorse. No point in trying. Just get her out of society and into lifelong imprisonment where she belongs.

PollyAmour · 23/08/2023 18:26

tescocreditcard · 21/08/2023 11:43

They could easily handcuff her, put a spit mask on, put leg irons on and then a couple of big burly policemen could take her underneath the arms and force her up to the dock. It's really not difficult.

You sound scary.

Golaz · 23/08/2023 23:11

Oh so this kind of baying mob justice is allowed, but if you post a thread questioning the integrity of the conviction , partly to see if there are others who share similar concerns, and partly in an attempt to open up a debate / promote a spirit of accountable justice, you are called a troll and the thread is immediately deleted by mumsnet HQ. I see.

XenoBitch · 23/08/2023 23:23

What would that achieve?
She knows her sentence, as she will be living it.
The victim impact statements are for the judge, not to make the defendant feel bad (and in this case, I don't think it would make her feel bad anyway).

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