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Am I white Irish?

243 replies

SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:12

Parents are from Ireland, have the accent, moved when they were late twenties.

i was born in England. Have an Irish passport. Live in England.

can I consider myself white Irish?

it’s for diversity monitoring.

OP posts:
Pinkcadillac · 01/12/2022 21:36

You are British.

You were born here. Your ancestry is irrelevant

SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:36

Fleur405 · 01/12/2022 21:17

people born in the UK are not necessarily British citizens if born after 1983 unless at least one parent is British.

I’ve got a British passport, one parent is Northern Ireland

OP posts:
TrixJax · 01/12/2022 21:36

What do you identify as OP?
If asked, what do you say your nationality is?
You can certainly be white Irish if you want, or white British if you want as you're born and brought up here

SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:37

Pinkcadillac · 01/12/2022 21:36

You are British.

You were born here. Your ancestry is irrelevant

would you consider an Asian person the same? Parents are say Thai, you would call them British (the child)?

OP posts:
SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:38

legalseagull · 01/12/2022 21:14

You're British though if you were born here aren't you?

Would that not be the same for all the workforce? In the office all but One person is born in the uk.

OP posts:
Whooppppp · 01/12/2022 21:38

Pinkcadillac · 01/12/2022 21:36

You are British.

You were born here. Your ancestry is irrelevant

So would you say she should tick the box, white British ?

PinkPrettyAndPointed · 01/12/2022 21:39

legalseagull · 01/12/2022 21:14

You're British though if you were born here aren't you?

My DC were born in the UK. They're Irish / Australian citizens.

You're White Irish OP.

POTC · 01/12/2022 21:41

Hereward1332 · 01/12/2022 21:17

Imagine a posh octogenarian lady persistently asking you where you are from...

I was a carer for a posh octogenarian lady with alzheimers who was absolutely insistent that she was Irish despite having absolutely zero connection to Ireland 🤣
We were trying to complete the census form at the time, I had to ask the family to check and correct after!

BacklogBritain · 01/12/2022 21:42

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TrixJax · 01/12/2022 21:43

would you consider an Asian person the same? Parents are say Thai, you would call them British (the child)?

Well yes many 1st generation consider themselves British.
Ngosi Fulani says her parents came to Britain in the 1950s. And she says she's British

OliveOyl321 · 01/12/2022 21:44

This has baffled me. I would consider you British because you were born and brought up in Britain but a lot of posters seem to think the opposite so I must be missing something. How can you be Irish just because your parents are?? Surely your nationality only relates to you and where you were born, not your parents???

SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:46

OliveOyl321 · 01/12/2022 21:44

This has baffled me. I would consider you British because you were born and brought up in Britain but a lot of posters seem to think the opposite so I must be missing something. How can you be Irish just because your parents are?? Surely your nationality only relates to you and where you were born, not your parents???

What would you call someone who’s brown skinned/south Asian, British passport, born in England and parents are from Sri Lanka?

brown British?

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ParentsTrapped · 01/12/2022 21:48

It’s for diversity monitoring - it’s asking about ethnicity, not nationality. If your parents are both white Irish then you are white Irish. If you’d been born in china you wouldn’t tick a box saying your ethnicity was Chinese.

girlmom21 · 01/12/2022 21:48

LynLynette · 01/12/2022 21:32

Have you ever been to Ireland?

I have. I'm not Irish.

GiantWotsit · 01/12/2022 21:48

I'm the same op and I tick white Irish when it's an option

NIparty · 01/12/2022 21:49

xJ0y · 01/12/2022 21:19

Where were you brought up?
I'd consider you English tbh
(I am Irish)
Obviously English with Irish parents, like.... Boy George or Dermot O'Leary, Jimmy Carr, Steve Coogan, I think of them as British but I know their parents were Irish.

Agree. Your parents are Irish, you're English.

OliveOyl321 · 01/12/2022 21:49

SmallNuts · 01/12/2022 21:46

What would you call someone who’s brown skinned/south Asian, British passport, born in England and parents are from Sri Lanka?

brown British?

Well yes, if that was an option box. British anyway.
Maybe I’m wrong? I hadn’t thought you could choose, it was simply a fact of where you were born and brought up.
very interesting

Riu · 01/12/2022 21:49

you could just do eeny, meeny, miney, moe..

FirstFallopians · 01/12/2022 21:50

Also Irish and would see you as British with Irish parents. Same as a pp pointed out that we know the likes of Morrissey and Dermot O’Leary are English with Irish parents.

TrixJax · 01/12/2022 21:51

What is the quest it asks OP?
Does it ask your nationality or ethnicity?

Mangledrake · 01/12/2022 21:51

It's up to you - you qualify as British or Irish.

Which do you identify with? Who would you support in a match? If you had kids would you want them to know about their Irish heritage?
If you could only have one passport, which would you choose? (Apart from Brexit)

It's for you to decide

OliveOyl321 · 01/12/2022 21:51

ParentsTrapped · 01/12/2022 21:48

It’s for diversity monitoring - it’s asking about ethnicity, not nationality. If your parents are both white Irish then you are white Irish. If you’d been born in china you wouldn’t tick a box saying your ethnicity was Chinese.

Ah that makes it a bit clearer.

crussont · 01/12/2022 21:55

Tick all the boxes you feel apply. Same as the gender boxes isn't it.

bellabasset · 01/12/2022 21:55

My df was born in the Republic so thanks to him I'm still a citizen of the EU and intend to get an Irish passport. I love Ireland

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