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Mail on Bath Theatre Family Sex Show for 5+ age

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Abitofalark · 09/04/2022 02:32

The DM article quotes from a thread on mumsnet in AIBU www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4524406-Deeply-concerned-about-Child-Safety-in-Bristol?messages=100&pg=1

The Mail explains:
"A theatre company has sparked fury by staging a show featuring naked bodies that explores 'love, sexuality and sexual pleasure' aimed at children as young as five. ..
The website describes it as 'a fun and silly performance about the painfully awkward subject of sex, exploring names and functions, boundaries, consent, pleasure, queerness, sex, gender and relationships.
It goes on: 'Using real life bodies, personal stories, songs and movement, The Family Sex Show puts the good stuff at the forefront of conversation and imagines a future where there is no shame; but a celebration of difference, equality and liberation.' "

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10700795/Fury-theatre-company-stages-naked-exploring-sexuality-sexual-pleasure-queerness.html

It is claimed to be based on the school curriculum but according to a AIBU poster, it includes gender identity indoctrination, along with the stuff about sexual pleasure, nudity, etc:

"I would challenge PPs to show where pegging comes in the RSE curriculum for 5 year olds.
Or ‘TERF’, which is helpfully included in the glossary, just in case we were in any doubt about this group’s intentions.
They can just FOTHFSOFAFOSM with their queering and cissing. If any public money is going into this, it’s a fucking outrage when huge numbers of children are arriving at school hungry."

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MangyInseam · 09/04/2022 02:58

Aside from all the obvious nuttery of this, the woman (she/her) producer says they are trying to make the show they wish they had seen as kids.

I'd have been completely mortified if my parents had taken me to this, once I was about 8.

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 07:08

It’s a safeguarding issue if you take your kids to a show like that and I’d expect the authorities to take an interest. Instead, the threats company gets funding from the Arts Council England. Mind is blown.

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 07:08

Theatre company!

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DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 09/04/2022 07:11

I wonder if the DM explained FOTTFSOFATFOSM to their readers

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Cheekymaw · 09/04/2022 07:11

This garbage gets Arts Council money ? Urgh it really is the end days.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 09/04/2022 07:13

Excellent typo. I saw a bit of the very long AIBU thread yesterday and was astounded. Any parent who would take a young child to this needs an intervention for the child's sake. Many excellent points made on the other thread and on Twitter.

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lady69 · 09/04/2022 07:14

Grooming.

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 07:15

Yes, they get public money to tell kids about pegging and squirting. Definitely living in the end times.

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FOJN · 09/04/2022 07:35

One of the performers is quoted somewhere on the theatre company's website stating that the highlight for them was getting naked and singing about genitals.

There were at least two teachers on the other thread who claimed to understand safeguarding and thought this was fine and definitely not grooming!

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Rainbowshit · 09/04/2022 07:41

Bet it was a bloke that came up with this idea. Bet they can't believe their luck that they get paid to flash their knob to a theatre full of young kids. Why any parent would take their 5 year old to see this is beyond me.

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ResisterRex · 09/04/2022 07:50

SSAUK came on the thread (p26??) at one point and made some excellent replies to people defending it. Basically saying - you've been groomed if you think this is OK. It was a great post

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RhubarbCrumbled · 09/04/2022 07:53

BDSM? In a glossary for a kids show? WTAF? But I notice there isn't any nudity in the promotional pictures.

Had a look at 'School for Sexuality Education' and it's one to be wary of if it comes to a school near you!

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 07:53

Yes, the adults are the targets, really. Make the adults think this is cool and liberal, then you can do what you want.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/04/2022 07:57

It's a safeguarding nightmare and interesting how the company use the words "safeguarding" while their actions in saying it's for 5 year olds upwards, demonstrates they don't have a clue about safeguarding.

Btw - I love the fact that the Mail quote the poster BenCooperisaGod - that's a very specific FWR "inside" joke for all those who followed the Maya threads.

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BenCooperisaGod · 09/04/2022 08:05

Now i have been quoted in the DM, might be time for a name change (sorry Ben Cooper!). I do wish they had used one of the v eloquent posts on safeguarding that made it v clear just how toxic this batshittery is. That or "this is legs akimbo with pronouns"

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SolasAnla · 09/04/2022 08:08

@Rainbowshit

Bet it was a bloke that came up with this idea. Bet they can't believe their luck that they get paid to flash their knob to a theatre full of young kids. Why any parent would take their 5 year old to see this is beyond me.

While men are much more likely to engage in CSA its also important to remember that its not a single sex (men) do all the offending issue.
The probability of women offending is not zero so even an all female cast would still be a safeguarding concern.

If it was a film classification around nudity and sexual activity would prevent Universal or Parental Guidance classification, it may get away with a Under12.
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SolasAnla · 09/04/2022 08:09

While men are statistically much more likely to engage in CSA

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2022 08:16
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jay55 · 09/04/2022 08:17

Read the other thread and can't help but think even though the target audience is families, the actual audience will be incels.

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RhubarbCrumbled · 09/04/2022 08:18

Wait. They don't actually know what BDSM is. Play parties aren't about BDSM and it's incredibly rare that anything that extreme takes place at them.

It's even more worrying when they don't even know that they're teaching about dangerous sexual activities. This is making extreme practices mainstream and acceptable and outside of the world of porn.

I've led an alternative sexual life and had fun with it but I'm an adult and got into it pretty gradually and learnt along the way. It also means I know that this is a damaging and extreme view of sex being advertised to young people. It's hard core porn but with silly songs.

And just in case it's Bondage, Domination, Sadism and Masochism. It's the sort of sex that when it goes wrong, it's fatal. Usually the sort of sex being undertaken when 'a sex act gone wrong' is used as a reason for murder of a (most usually) female partner.

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tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 08:34

This sort of thing is where I seriously part company with the ‘sex positivity’ movement. Sex itself is nothing to be ashamed of. Autonomous adults should do what they want to do. But there are ethical issues in the sex industry: pimping, prostitution, the conflation of sex and violence, the involvement of kids in that world.

I don’t want to see us become a much less liberal society, but I can see it going that way if people keep pushing this sort of thing under the auspices of ‘sex positivity’. Eventually people are going to start backing more conservative laws, as they are doing in the US.

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MatthewJTaylor · 09/04/2022 16:41

@FOJN

One of the performers is quoted somewhere on the theatre company's website stating that the highlight for them was getting naked and singing about genitals.

There were at least two teachers on the other thread who claimed to understand safeguarding and thought this was fine and definitely not grooming!

If I ever saw a bloke say in public that he likes stripping of in front of kids whilst singing about his penis, I'm sure there would be a mob within moments.
Normal people are not tolerant of this stuff.
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Imnobody4 · 09/04/2022 17:10

Meet Josie who is a white female with dyed red hair wearing gold earrings but doesn't have pierced ears. She's responsible for this idiocy.

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1512257114994970625?t=2rQ1MBJI-3HVx_U1InqmHg&s=19

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Flumsnet · 09/04/2022 17:27

Camilla Parker-Bowles is patron of bath theatre! Surely she wouldn't accept this

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eddiemairswife · 09/04/2022 17:36

Never too old to learn that 'pegging' doesn't always relate to the washing line.

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