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Eleanor Scott article, 'Did Mumsnet Just Hand Penny Mordaunt Her Arse?'

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R0wantrees · 15/03/2019 00:34

'Did Mumsnet Just Hand Penny Mordaunt Her Arse?'
(extract)

“Don’t you worry about getting back to us, Penny dearest. Mumsnet only has ‘14 million unique users’ a month ... Just you sit tight and eventually get one of your minions to post some anodyne rhetoric about valuing diversity and it’ll all be fine.”
— Mumsnet poster, webchat with Penny Mordaunt 14/3/19 13.55pm

It takes a certain set of tools to turn a golden opportunity to engage with hundreds of thousands of women on International Women’s Day into an unmitigated PR disaster, and Penny Mordaunt MP has somehow managed to pull it off. I’ve met Penny Mordaunt a few times in Portsmouth over the years while I was on Council-related business, and she has always seemed perfectly likeable and pleasant. But future Prime Minister material? Not unless courting disaster is now seen as prerequisite rather than unfortunate happenstance." (continues)

concludes:
"The Mumsnetters who had asked their questions in such detail, and with such courtesy - posters have to abide by Mumsnet’s fairly stringent ‘Talk Guidlines’ - were left disappointed and, frankly, pissed off, especially regarding the unanswered points about children’s safeguarding. But they weren’t leaving the webchat meekly. ‘Disappointed but not surprised’ wrote one poster. ‘Completely disingenuous’ wrote another. Of her apparent ignorance around the issues raised concerning children’s safeguarding, a poster wrote, more in sadness than anger, ‘This is unforgiveable. You were given all the information. All of it. Spoonfed it. You haven’t bloody well read it.’ And one of the most damning comments so far: ‘Either Penny, or Penny’s SPADs are not up to par on the reports coming out of the Tavistock’. (Click here if you want to read the Mail’s report about the potentially brewing scandal, or here for a BBC snippet. It’s worth digging deeper if you’re interested.)

And finally, can the Minister for Women even define what is a woman? On this showing, the answer would seem to be No. The actual Minister for Woman apparently doesn’t ‘get it’, doesn’t want to ‘get it’, and seemingly can’t be bothered to ‘get it’. That’s a lot of women’s votes that have just been lost, whichever way you look at it. Post-modern, philosophical ideologies of feelings, and misunderstandings of the difference between sex and gender, should never, ever compromise the safeguarding of children. People who raise red flags about safeguarding deserve to be taken seriously and to have their voices heard. If we’ve we’ve learned nothing else during the past decade, surely to God we’ve learned that."
eleanorscottarchaeology.com/els-blog/2019/3/14/the-day-that-mumsnet-took-down-penny-mordaunt-mp

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_live_events/3523984-International-Women-s-Day-Q-A-with-Penny-Mordaunt-MP-Secretary-of-State-for-International-Development-NOW-CLOSED-TO-NEW-QUESTIONS

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Angryresister · 15/03/2019 00:37

Excellent summary of this fiasco. Fancy , a minister for women, really?

ArcheryAnnie · 15/03/2019 00:39

It's a great article, easily shortened to "Why yes, yes they did."

ArcheryAnnie · 15/03/2019 00:40

(And thank you, Dr. Scott.)

Datun · 15/03/2019 00:43

My dog responds better.

OccasionalKite · 15/03/2019 01:27

I read those Penny Mordaunt answers, could not believe the banality and ignorance of them.

DeRigueurMortis · 15/03/2019 01:29

Utterly shocking responses by Penny.

I'm damn cross.

OccasionalKite · 15/03/2019 01:30

And as for the safeguarding of children - no-one outside of Mumsnet seems to give a fuck.

ToeToToe · 15/03/2019 01:51

Such a good write up.

Penny, or rather her SPADs, were so disappointing. They might as well put Adrian Harrop in Women & Equalities. The only difference between Penny's responses, and someone like Harrop, is that Penny didn't actually call us bigots and try and doxx us, or contact our employers Confused

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/03/2019 03:46

Minister for Women, who can't define 'women'.

Vixxxy · 15/03/2019 06:58

Spot on..what a wasted opportunity for Penny really, instead choses basically 'woke cookies' and shows she is really not fit for her position, let alone anything else. Bad enough it took her so long to reply, but the replies are fucking worse.

TimeLady · 15/03/2019 07:32

Penny Mordaunt's spads are Laura Round and Lynn Davidson

order-order.com/tag/spads/

FemalePersonator · 15/03/2019 07:40

I really don't know why politicians come on MN if they are unprepared. Of course they will get their arses handed to them.

TanteRose · 15/03/2019 07:45

really good article

littlbrowndog · 15/03/2019 07:49

Yeah penny. Minister for women not sure what women actually are

Ffs penny
Resign if you don’t know the answer

RedToothBrush · 15/03/2019 07:51

I really don't know why politicians come on MN if they are unprepared.

They think coming on MN will be a breeze and will be shallow and drippy questions cos it's just stupid mothers whose brains fell out when they had babies.

The stereotype of MN is something to behold when it meets reality.

FemalePersonator · 15/03/2019 07:57

Perhaps Penny was hoping that questions would be "what's your favourite biscuit"-level.

Graphista · 15/03/2019 07:58

I shall remember this the next time I read on mn "Tories aren't throwing girls and women under the self ID bus"

Yes! Yes they are! And as they are the party in power they have more means to do so it is NOT just labour dubious in this area! Tories are just being much quieter about it.

Saying nothing is not supporting girls/women. It's ignoring the issues and in penny's case it's NOT DOING HER BLOODY JOB!!

Ereshkigal · 15/03/2019 08:03

Did anyone ask her the biscuit question? I don't think so. She and her SPADs must have been disappointed they didn't get to make an amusing post about jammie dodgers.

Whatisthisfuckery · 15/03/2019 08:06

Yes, either she thinks we’ve all got mashed potato baby brain, or her hubris is such that she genuinely believes that her powerful position and her mealy mouthed non answers will be enough to shut all us silly women up. I’m not sure which is worse. Anybody fancy starting a petition to call for her resignation?

FemalePersonator · 15/03/2019 08:16

I'd sign.

CarlGrimesMissingEye · 15/03/2019 08:17

Wow. That article is fab. Please tell me Penny has been sent in many many times to ensure she sees it!

picklemepopcorn · 15/03/2019 08:31

Minister for Women, you had one job.

Support and protect women.

The biggest threat to women, and you haven't bothered to educate yourself. The one thing.

I wonder if she's woken up feeling embarrassed?

PurpleCrowbar · 15/03/2019 08:33

Burn.

Excellent article. Hope she's enjoying it with her morning cuppa & biscuit.

MediocreOne · 15/03/2019 08:34

Absolutely spot on. What was she thinking?

DpWm · 15/03/2019 08:44

I got angrier and angrier the more I read.
Totally scripted by the AWA. The lip service to period poverty followed by total determination to obliterate women's rights.