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Jonny Best article, 'Free Speech and Bullshit: the Truth to Power Cafe.' re Jeremy Goldstein & the no platforming of Julie Bindel

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R0wantrees · 27/10/2018 17:16

Comprehensive article including background & correspondence etc

concludes:
"Hypocrisy is an easy charge to lay at anyone’s door. We are all guilty of it to some extent —even in the most saintly of us, there is a gap between what we say and what we do. But no-one forced Goldstein to declare himself a free speech champion or team up with Index on Censorship. No-one forced him to centre himself in the whole endeavour. He did all of this freely, selling his production to venues and to audiences, and building his reputation as a producer on the back of this inspirational injunction:

Rise up in the name of free speech and activism!

Having done all of this, Goldstein had one overriding responsibility: to live up to his own words. Ultimately, the only fair judgement is that Goldstein is a free speech poseur, and Truth to Power Cafe is a fraud."

medium.com/@JonnnyBest/free-speech-and-bullshit-the-truth-to-power-cafe-71a671cfa1c2

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3404103-you-couldn-t-make-this-up-julie-bindle-no-platformed-at-truth2powercafe

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R0wantrees · 27/10/2018 17:42

Peter Tatchell's role in this situation is significant.

Jonny Best, "This sort of thing happens to every producer at some point, and Bindel thought no more about it, until she happened to see advertising for the Roundhouse event at which she had been due to speak — and in her place was Peter Tatchell."

With the exception of promoting the event when he was due to speak and prior to its cancellation, there doen't seem to have been any public comment from Peter Tatchell.

Jonny Best article, 'Free Speech and Bullshit: the Truth to Power Cafe.' re Jeremy Goldstein & the no platforming of Julie Bindel
Jonny Best article, 'Free Speech and Bullshit: the Truth to Power Cafe.' re Jeremy Goldstein & the no platforming of Julie Bindel
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ijustwannadance · 27/10/2018 17:47

Where are all the news reports on

ijustwannadance · 27/10/2018 17:48

trans people being attacked in the streets on a daily basis in the UK?
Oh yeah, there are none.

IdaBWells · 27/10/2018 18:03

Especially by so-called T*s, I mean women.

The only violent conflict that happened and went to court is that of a 26 year old man who identify’s as a trans woman and was found guilty of attacking a 60 year old woman.

So much for Free Speech, they are so scared of older women!

littlbrowndog · 27/10/2018 18:57

Cowards
And a poseur
Tatchell 🤦‍♀️

hollyhzd · 27/10/2018 19:18

All this disingenuous bollocks about violence! What exactly are they afraid will happen if they share a stage with Julie Bindel? How are they not safe??

Seriously sick of blokes telling women we're not allowed to speak.

Gentlygently · 27/10/2018 20:19

Index on Censorship would seem to be a good home for donations! It is a non profit rather than a charity, in the UK anyway, but they seem to have their heads screwed on well!

Popchyk · 27/10/2018 20:24

Yeah, right.

All those woke blokes scared for their lives from the threat of Julie Bindel. On her own.

Pathetic.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 27/10/2018 20:25

I was surprised at how surprised I was that Index for Censorship respected their own mission over this. Good to know that there is still integrity in public life.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 27/10/2018 20:28

They're not scared of Bindel, they're scared of her imaginary entourage of murderously violent homophobic toxically masculine men Confused

Manderleyagain · 27/10/2018 20:42

Index's magazine is excellent. But only if you're interested in speech and free expression!
Their Twitter feeds a bit depressing though what with journalist in prison and disappearing in other parts of the world. It shows what we have to hang on to.

hollyhzd · 27/10/2018 20:44

I think they're more scared of feminists NOT threatening violence. They're losing control of the narrative.

TalkingintheDark · 27/10/2018 20:48

Nothing but a huge, woman-hating lie that gender critical feminists are in any way responsible for male violence against trans people, which is anyway statistically very infrequent.

Transactivists with their transgenderist ideology OTOH are directly responsible for additional acts of violence/sexual violence by males towards women, on top of the staggering number that already occur.

When are we going to turn this fucking bullshit narrative around? I am so sick of the lies. But, oh look, who is it whose voice genuinely doesn’t get heard/believed in this debate? Oh yes. It’s ours. Women’s. In spite of all that weighty “cis privilege” we’re so fortunate to have.

Anyway. Jeremy Goldstein. What a pathetic, cowardly, misogynist loser. We all know which power he daren't speak truth to - the power wielded by the penis that proclaims itself female. Same old male supremacy as always, whatever it’s dressed in.

newtlover · 27/10/2018 20:50

maybe Index for Censorship will get my Amnesty money

Beamur · 27/10/2018 21:41

Free speech my arse!
Excellent dissemination of the double standards at play here, another good article from Jonny Best.

theOtherPamAyres · 27/10/2018 23:04

The whiny, oh-pity-me-I'm-the-victim-here correspondence from Goldstein was so creepy. It was all about him. Lies, flip-flops and cowardice.

His mask slipped. He preferred to side with his own sex against a woman (who knows, more than anyone, a thing or two about the personal cost of free speech and activism). It's so reassuring that JB called him out - with sound evidence and facts with commentary.

R0wantrees · 28/10/2018 10:52

Peter Tatchell Twitter comment 27/10/18

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3407489-Peter-Tatchell-Again-More-blaming-women-for-male-violence

Jonny Best article, 'Free Speech and Bullshit: the Truth to Power Cafe.' re Jeremy Goldstein & the no platforming of Julie Bindel
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DoctorTwo · 28/10/2018 18:04

Twatchell blocked me on Twitter after he called me an Islamophobe and I replied that he was an idiot. He and Cashman are 2 cheeks of the same arse.

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