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John Bercow: 'sex pest', ridicules GC Women, friend of Pink News & Edward Lord who refused UQ about prison policy following Karen White Case. Unconnected?

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:12

Article in the Times today:
'John Bercow urged to quit over report into sex pest MPs
Speaker of the Commons is not up to the job, says standards chief'

(extract)
Writing in The Times, Sir Kevin, 71, says: “The change in culture has to come from the top, and unfortunately I no longer believe that the Speaker, John Bercow, is the correct person to provide that leadership, so he should step down.”

Dame Laura, a retired High Court judge, was commissioned this year to report on the harassment of Commons staff after Mr Bercow, 55, who has been Speaker since 2009, was accused of bullying two of his former private secretaries. He strenuously denied all allegations.

“Delivering fundamental and permanent change will require a focus and a genuine commitment on the part of the leadership of the House,” Dame Laura wrote. “However, the inescapable conclusion from the views expressed during this inquiry is that it will be extremely difficult to build confidence that there will be fundamental change when the levers of change are regarded as part of the change that is needed.”

Maria Miller, the Conservative chairwoman of the women and equalities committee, also called on Mr Bercow to resign and will challenge him to grant an urgent question on the report in the Commons today. “Bullying and harassment is coming right from the top. We have outstanding allegations directly against the Speaker, who is going to be one of the people considering the report,” she told the BBC.

The report details alleged sexual harassment by MPs, saying that women reported being abused in “vulgar, gender-related terms”. There were reports of “inappropriate touching”, including men “trying to kiss them, grabbing their arms or bottoms or stroking their breasts or bottoms”. Staff reported men putting their arms around women’s shoulders or waists or “pulling them into corners for close personal contact”.

Even when the investigation was ordered, Mr Bercow believed that he had sufficient support to stay on as Speaker, at least through the final months of the Article 50 process through which Britain is leaving the EU. Despite being a former Conservative MP he has always had the near-total support of the Labour benches." (continues)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/john-bercow-told-to-quit-over-report-into-sex-pest-mps-0t7vrbf2j

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3365319-new-kirkup-article-about-bercow-s-refusal-to-let-mps-discuss-karen-white

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:15

4th June 2018 (week the GRA consultation launched?) reception hosted by Pink NEws at The Speaker's House:
previous MN thread:
OP junebedford82 wrote:

"Just saw this on P*k News
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/04/speaker-john-bercow-tells-pinknews-reception-2/

Bercow
"There’s still a huge challenge in terms of the trans community. We need to up our level of standing up for the rights of trans people. We shouldn’t allow people to peddle anti-trans messages under the guise of trying to protect other people’s rights. We shouldn’t let people muddy the waters in that way. It’s just not people screaming abuse in the streets – it’s sometimes people who have access to the media and can write articulately, and are using their position to push messages which I think result in very considerable and dangerous displays of hostility to trans people. Up with that we must not put, as Churchill might have said.”

What on earth is he doing? How can a supposedly-independent speaker intervene on something in the middle of the government consultation?"

Bercow's speech has been a frequent pop-up on PN articles throughout the Govt consultation period

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:16

A number of women sent postcards to Bercow with Churchill quotes,
I thought this apposite:

'So we must beware of a tyranny of opinion which tries to make only one side of a question the one which may be heard. Everyone is in favour of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people’s idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage.'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3299190-Send-a-postcard-to-John-Bercow

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:17

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5867693/Tory-MP-blocked-probe-Bercow-nominated-knighthood-Speaker.html

From the Daily Mail article (June 21st 2018) linked above:

"A Tory MP who blocked an investigation into claims John Bercow bullied staff did so after receiving a knighthood six months ago thanks to the Commons Speaker, it can be revealed today.

An official probe into the allegations against Mr Bercow was prevented from taking place last month after Sir Christopher Chope cast the deciding vote to stop it at a meeting of the Commons Committee on Standards.

Now the Daily Mail can reveal the former Tory minister made his decision after he was knighted in the 2018 New Year's Honours list, having been nominated by Mr Bercow.

It is not known whether Sir Christopher knows who put him forward for a knighthood.

The revelation comes days after the MP for Christchurch made headlines after single-handedly blocking government-backed plans to make 'upskirting' a criminal offence."

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:17

Bercow blocked Vaz revelations after accepting poll donations

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bercow-blocked-vaz-revelations-after-accepting-poll-donations-gbs8ndr65?shareToken=332491c01015a2acae619c71f723acb2

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:21

From thread in OP Procrastinator1 wrote:

Bercow is E Lord’s old friend according to the gallery page on Edward’s web-site.

Edward Lord the Freemason?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/04/two-freemasons-lodges-operating-secretly-at-westminster

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3323475-Surprise-The-Masons-now-welcome-Transwomen-but-not-women

Edward Lord responsible for the City of London Corporation's proposal to make all services and spaces mixed sex (incl Hampstead Pools)?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3317922-City-of-London-Corporation-consultation-is-out-this-covers-Hampstead-Ponds

Edward Lord who is non-binary?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3316098-Childrens-Convenor-Elected-Councillor-calls-women-cunts-on-Twitter-rants

Edward Lord whose partner Dr Meg John Barker wrote the BACP Best Practice Guide and collaberates with Justine 'Bish' Hancock?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3356199-New-OU-Course-on-gender-identity
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3357713-BISH-proudly-supported-by

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3352843-First-there-was-Jess-Bradley-then-the-Challenors-now-Edward-Lord

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pennydrew · 16/10/2018 11:21

Oh my god. How is he still speaker?!

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:25

to quote from the article by James Kirkup linked in OP:

"But even by the dismal standards of the trans debate, where supposedly responsible figures routinely shirk their duties to appease a small, aggressive group of activists and lobbyists, John Bercow’s decision strikes me as repulsive, a disgusting abdication of responsibility that brings shame on its author and his office."

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:26

Maria Miller, the Conservative chairwoman of the women and equalities committee, also called on Mr Bercow to resign and will challenge him to grant an urgent question on the report in the Commons today. “Bullying and harassment is coming right from the top. We have outstanding allegations directly against the Speaker, who is going to be one of the people considering the report,” she told the BBC.

Maria Miller needs to wake up!

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:34

Pink News July 4th as Govt Consultation opens:

House of Commons Speaker John Bercow has hit out at anti-trans voices in the media in a speech at the PinkNews summer reception in Parliament.

Speaker Bercow was hosting the PinkNews summer reception in Westminster in partnership with Zurich, which follows events in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Belfast.

Although the holder of the office of Speaker is required to be politically independent, Bercow has repeatedly spoken up in favour of LGBT equality during his nine years in the role.

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House of Commons Speaker John Bercow has hit out at anti-trans voices in the media in a speech at the PinkNews summer reception in Parliament.

Speaker Bercow was hosting the PinkNews summer reception in Westminster in partnership with Zurich, which follows events in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Belfast.

Although the holder of the office of Speaker is required to be politically independent, Bercow has repeatedly spoken up in favour of LGBT equality during his nine years in the role.

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He made no exception at the July 4 PinkNews reception in Speaker’s House, giving a “most explicit and unequivocal statement of support” for LGBT rights and PinkNews.

In his speech, the Speaker hit out at anti-transgender voices in the media, the week the government launched a much-criticised consultation on gender recognition rules.

He said: “There’s still a huge challenge in terms of the trans community. We need to up our level of standing up for the rights of trans people.

“We shouldn’t allow people to peddle anti-trans messages under the guise of trying to protect other people’s rights. We shouldn’t let people muddy the waters in that way.

“It’s just not people screaming abuse in the streets – it’s sometimes people who have access to the media and can write articulately, and are using their position to push messages which I think result in very considerable and dangerous displays of hostility to trans people.

“Up with that we must not put, as Churchill might have said.” (continues)

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/04/speaker-john-bercow-tells-pinknews-reception-2/

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:35

apologies for errant c&p.

Am feeling a bit angsty!

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 16/10/2018 11:39

Don't apologise. It's been a day for it here too! Smile

Currently chivying my local MP to respond to various emails. He's been very quiet recently, not even dancing on restaurant tables!

Melamin · 16/10/2018 11:43

I can't believe he has lasted this long as Speaker. He has always been a problem.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:46

Listening to Woman's Hour and reading the Times at the same time not a good recipie for calm considered posting! Wink

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3395180-Please-email-Womans-Hour-today

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WokerThanWoke · 16/10/2018 11:48

Thanks for the thread R0wan.

scepticalwoman · 16/10/2018 12:04

Thank you R0wan. It's a tangled web that they've woven but the closer we peer into what is happening, the more outrageous the abuse of power and influence appears. I have always resisted the temptation to get into conspiracy theories but this time Shock.

As the bard said, something is very rotten in the state of Denmark politics

Barracker · 16/10/2018 12:11

Goodness. What a surprise, that the Speaker, who has so vehemently condemned women for defending their own rights, who has for so long supported the causes of those born male to tell women what's what, should turn out to be accused of sexual impropriety, bullying and misogyny.

Who could have possibly seen that coming.

speakingwoman · 16/10/2018 12:12

crikey, thanks Rowan.

noeffingidea · 16/10/2018 12:48

And the dots continue to join up...

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 13:24

Frank Field on R4 World at One describes John Bercow as 'greatest reforming speaker' and rebutts call for Bercow to stand down.

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SunsetBeetch · 16/10/2018 13:48

Awww I had quite a bit of time for Frank Field too.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 14:00

It will now become apparent which MPs will prioritise political alliegence over challenging the abuse of women.

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TheGoddessFrigg · 16/10/2018 14:09

It’s just not people screaming abuse in the streets

Nice bit of misogyny there.

Fallingirl · 16/10/2018 14:12

I guess it’s too much to hope for them all to fall like dominos if just one of them falls...

Would be nice, though.

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