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John Bercow: 'sex pest', ridicules GC Women, friend of Pink News & Edward Lord who refused UQ about prison policy following Karen White Case. Unconnected?

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 11:12

Article in the Times today:
'John Bercow urged to quit over report into sex pest MPs
Speaker of the Commons is not up to the job, says standards chief'

(extract)
Writing in The Times, Sir Kevin, 71, says: “The change in culture has to come from the top, and unfortunately I no longer believe that the Speaker, John Bercow, is the correct person to provide that leadership, so he should step down.”

Dame Laura, a retired High Court judge, was commissioned this year to report on the harassment of Commons staff after Mr Bercow, 55, who has been Speaker since 2009, was accused of bullying two of his former private secretaries. He strenuously denied all allegations.

“Delivering fundamental and permanent change will require a focus and a genuine commitment on the part of the leadership of the House,” Dame Laura wrote. “However, the inescapable conclusion from the views expressed during this inquiry is that it will be extremely difficult to build confidence that there will be fundamental change when the levers of change are regarded as part of the change that is needed.”

Maria Miller, the Conservative chairwoman of the women and equalities committee, also called on Mr Bercow to resign and will challenge him to grant an urgent question on the report in the Commons today. “Bullying and harassment is coming right from the top. We have outstanding allegations directly against the Speaker, who is going to be one of the people considering the report,” she told the BBC.

The report details alleged sexual harassment by MPs, saying that women reported being abused in “vulgar, gender-related terms”. There were reports of “inappropriate touching”, including men “trying to kiss them, grabbing their arms or bottoms or stroking their breasts or bottoms”. Staff reported men putting their arms around women’s shoulders or waists or “pulling them into corners for close personal contact”.

Even when the investigation was ordered, Mr Bercow believed that he had sufficient support to stay on as Speaker, at least through the final months of the Article 50 process through which Britain is leaving the EU. Despite being a former Conservative MP he has always had the near-total support of the Labour benches." (continues)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/john-bercow-told-to-quit-over-report-into-sex-pest-mps-0t7vrbf2j

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3365319-new-kirkup-article-about-bercow-s-refusal-to-let-mps-discuss-karen-white

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 14:21

I think Frank Fields commented that if Bercow went now it would be chaos (or similar). It may well be though perhaps not in the way Fields anticipates.

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Needmoresleep · 16/10/2018 14:38

R0wan, you missed the one about Pip Bunce, the cross-dressing Credit Suisse banker, being invited to the Speakers House to take part in the Girl Guides safeguarding consultations. Though I don't know if Bercow was there. or in the kitchen doing the washing up

I get your anger. All-party unsavouryness.

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 14:49

R0wan, you missed the one about Pip Bunce, the cross-dressing Credit Suisse banker, being invited to the Speakers House to take part in the Girl Guides safeguarding consultations. Though I don't know if Bercow was there. or in the kitchen doing the washing up

Needmoresleep Hosted by Maria Miller!

thread:
OP therealposieparker wrote: "A woman who is blocked from view, Phillip Bunce who is sometimes dressed as female, Maria Miller MP, Trans woman Bex or Aimee (they look the same to me) and a bloke. They are discussing trans inclusion and the girl guides."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3250175-Girl-Guides-Panel-discussion-at-Speakers-house-woman-male-woman-male-male-male

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 15:12

Spectator, 'Labour chooses party political interest over tackling Commons bullying'
by Isabel Hardman
(extract)
"Why has Labour decided to give John Bercow at least a stay of execution as Speaker? Emily Thornberry was asked about whether Bercow should go following Dame Laura Cox’s damning report on bullying and harassment in the House of Commons, and argued that she shouldn’t go. She told Sky News:

‘I think this is absolutely not the time to be changing Speaker. We don’t know for example with regard to Brexit as to what is going to happen, whether there’s going to be technically an amendable motion or not, whether it’ll be the Speaker’s discretion as to whether it is. We do need to have all hands to the deck at the moment.’

You have to give Thornberry some credit for being totally honest about Labour’s motivation here. The party thinks that Brexit is more important than ensuring that people in the House of Commons can come to work and feel safe from bullying and harassment. This seems rather strange given Labour has generally acted as though it would rather Brexit would just go away and it didn’t have to make any key decisions on anything. But it is also nakedly self-interested in deciding to ignore the implications of the Cox report, which were that the current senior leadership of the Commons is not capable of changing the ‘toxic culture’ that employees find themselves stuck in.

I argued yesterday that even if Bercow went, it wouldn’t guarantee a change in culture. But Cox’s conclusions suggest that he is at least partly responsible for the problems she describes. This means at the very least that it will be very difficult for victims of harassment to have confidence that Bercow is the person to change things." (continues)

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/labour-chooses-party-political-interest-over-tackling-commons-bullying/

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Bonions · 16/10/2018 15:52

John Bercow 'to quit as Speaker next summer'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-45880134

Needmoresleep · 16/10/2018 16:33

His wife has not been in the papers as much recently as she was 6 or 7 years ago (a very strange photo of her clad only in a bedsheet)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Bercow

One thing that had passed me by was her being accused of naming a schoolgirl involved in a child abduction case in 2012. Child protection 101?

Melamin · 16/10/2018 16:58

Yes, the sheet wearing Confused

R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 17:07

John Bercow 'to quit as Speaker next summer'

He was due to go earlier this year.
He decided to stay.
Its been said its to oversee Brexit.

I think Hmm

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 17:14

Apparently Bercow was due to go June 22nd 2018, "A cast iron guarantee"

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R0wantrees · 16/10/2018 17:19

R4 now,
"Brexit trumps abuse" and abuse is "bad behaviour" Dame Margaret Beckett

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QuietContraryMary · 16/10/2018 20:56

John Bercow is the scumbag who called for assisted repatriation.

"Former students at Essex University recalled him making speeches attacking gays and feminists.

"Essex was a very left-wing university at the time and he was pretty much universally despised," said one contemporary. "He was always attacking left-wingers, gays and feminists. After one speech he made at the student union one of the feminists walked up to him and poured a pint of beer over his head.""

He's a complete waste of oxygen and the sooner he is permanently removed from public life the better.

BeUpStanding · 16/10/2018 22:36

It's shocking when you see it all laid out like that. Thanks for the thread R0wantrees

Needmoresleep · 18/10/2018 09:38

I had hoped my MP would speak out on the GRA but this will do instead:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288657/Labour-MP-Kate-Hoey-calls-speaker-John-Bercow-resign.html

R0wantrees · 18/10/2018 20:51

David Davies MP described his incredulity at the UQ being refused by Bercow following the sexual assault of four women prisoners by Karen White, a male bodied person on Radio 4 news this evening.

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398541-Radio-4-now

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Needmoresleep · 18/10/2018 22:25

The Kate Hoey article is supposed to be in the Mail on Sunday, yet it has gone on-line 4 days early. I don’t know if that is usual, or whether the Mail wanted to add to pressure whilst people were still talking aboit it. It’s a good article.

AutoFillUsername · 18/10/2018 22:34

I’m confused what the connection is that you are suggesting.

What is the connection you arensuggesting between him bullying staff and being pro trans (he’s not actually accused of sexual harassment, both accusations are of aggressive and persistent bullying and undermining of staff, one man and one woman).

R0wantrees · 19/10/2018 00:13

I’m confused what the connection is that you are suggesting.

The OP is a question.

I think misogyny, male rivilege, abuse of male power, silencing women and damaging women's sex-based rights off the top of my head.

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R0wantrees · 19/10/2018 00:32

Here is the Speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow making not only a olitical statement but telling people what they must do.

(sponsored by Pink News again)

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1052660620716326920

"The Speaker, impartiality and procedural reform
The political impartiality of the Speaker is a key feature of the office, while the role's authority has developed over time alongside other procedural reforms.

Impartiality
The political impartiality of the Speaker is one of the office’s most important features – and most emulated or aspired to outside the UK. Once elected, the Speaker severs all ties with his or her former party and is in all aspects of the job a completely non-partisan figure." (continues)

www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/parliamentwork/offices-and-ceremonies/overview/the-speaker/procedures-and-impartiality/

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Serfisafleur · 19/10/2018 01:09

This is all utterly disgusting.

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