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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#womanwednesday is a thing now

118 replies

SwearyG · 22/05/2018 10:14

At least in Basingstoke.

In standing as Women’s Officer at his CLP David is showing just how easily abused self ID can be when parties or organisations don’t have any gatekeeping.

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busyboysmum · 22/05/2018 10:16

Sorry - I have just posted this as well. It's another great article from James Kirkup who is clearly as baffled by the whole thing as we are.

QueenOfQuacks · 22/05/2018 10:23

I can't read it.... what's the gist?

LapdanceShoeshine · 22/05/2018 10:26

Man who says he self-declares as woman on Wednesdays is standing as women’s officer

Great quote here:

“those people don’t have any right to criticise my gender-identity. If I say I am a woman on Wednesdays, then all they can do is accept that. After all, there are other people who only identify as women on some days of the week and not others, and they are accepted, not criticised.”
“In any case, anyone else’s criticism or questions about my gender identity are just not relevant to the Labour Party at the moment, given the current policy. If I say I’m a woman, I’m a woman.”

UpstartCrow · 22/05/2018 10:29

I like his womanly beard.

LapdanceShoeshine · 22/05/2018 10:31

I’d love to know how he came to decide to do this!

Brave man. He will get some stick...

Noqonterfy · 22/05/2018 10:34

Excellent Grin

PlectrumElectrum · 22/05/2018 10:35

I suspect #womanwednesday is the most oppressed wing/sub section of #manfriday. Amiright? Grin

SwearyG · 22/05/2018 10:35

He said he was inspired by ManFriday, but was worried he’d overstepped the mark.

I think it’s quite clever. Abusing self ID as a man to make a point is a bit more difficult than as a woman, you don’t want to be the man in the ladies loo/changing room/guide unit. This does disadvantage us in that it takes away a job but doesn’t put us at risk.

I hope he doesn’t get too much stick for it - it’s hard when you’re out on this stuff.

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PlectrumElectrum · 22/05/2018 10:39

Yup, definitely more brave & stunning. Grin

Sweary, kudos to you & David, both excellent activists & genius activism.

👏👏👏

PurpleCrowbar · 22/05/2018 10:41

Excelllent Grin.

SaraTree · 22/05/2018 10:44

Wonderful Grin

Imalldonethanks · 22/05/2018 10:50

Thank you David! Loving your work.

HotRocker · 22/05/2018 10:51

Excellent!
They might have to find another man pretending to be a woman to do the other six days a week though because I assume this is a part-time role.
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BetsyM00 · 22/05/2018 10:51

This makes me so happy and it's not even Wednesday. It's Tuesday. Grin

I hope he does get elected as a women's officer. Take the plan to its logical conclusion - then step down.

BellaHadidHere · 22/05/2018 10:54
Shock

I came up with this last week with DH. He's stolen my idea the bastard.

Apart from last week I suggested that DH gets himself down to our local swimming pool at 11am on Wednesdays when there are lots of kids running around bollock naked after their swimming lesson.

Society will only listen to us about the problems of self-ID when it starts to affect children.

R0wantrees · 22/05/2018 10:54

From the article:
"So he’s standing for a woman’s post. Why?

“My priority here is to inform the CLP, and maybe some other people, about what this policy means, about what happens when you say that someone’s gender depends only on what they say and nothing else.”

How would David respond to those who might say he is being offensive or bigoted, that he is trivialising the issues that transgender women face?

“I’d say those people don’t have any right to criticise my gender-identity. If I say I am a woman on Wednesdays, then all they can do is accept that. After all, there are other people who only identify as women on some days of the week and not others, and they are accepted, not criticised.”

cf Philip / Pips Bunce? ( I've no idea of Bunce's political membership)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3250175-Girl-Guides-Panel-discussion-at-Speakers-house-woman-male-woman-male-male-male

HerFemaleness · 22/05/2018 10:56

Are you in contact with him @SwearyG. He nails the argument. Very well done David.

Apropos of nothing but are ManFriday t-shirts available for purchase?

Ereshkigal · 22/05/2018 10:58

I suspect #womanwednesday is the most oppressed wing/sub section of #manfriday. Amiright?

lol I think you are Grin

BeUpStanding · 22/05/2018 10:59

Hurrah! This is marvellous... An excellent contribution to bringing the issue into public debate.

R0wantrees · 22/05/2018 10:59

Recent thread which may be of interest to anyone new to #ManFriday via #WomanWednesday.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3252624--ManFriday-background-Speech-by-Hannah-Clarke

& interview with background:
www.feministcurrent.com/2018/04/09/interview-uk-women-self-identifying-men-challenge-proposed-changes-gra-part-manfriday/

ShotsFired · 22/05/2018 10:59

I think he'd do a whole lot better than the other self ID'd women's officer who overtly doesn't give a single shiny shit about actual women.

SwearyG · 22/05/2018 11:05

I met him at WPUK Basingstoke @HerFemaleness and was really excited by this when we spoke. It's so relieving to have men on board because we know that some people listen to them more than they do to women.

T-shirts are available [http://manfridayuk.org/take-part/ here] if you want one.

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SwearyG · 22/05/2018 11:05

Actual t-shirt link

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BeUpStanding · 22/05/2018 11:08

The other 'woman's officer' - who shall remain nameless - now has ambitions to be the first trans prime minister, according to their Twitter bio. Well, good lucky sonny.

Ereshkigal · 22/05/2018 11:09

There are two others. The one who shall not be named, and Heather Peto.

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