Tempest v Rural Payments Agency Tribunal Thread 7

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5551375-tempest-v-rural-payments-agency-tribunal-thread-6

TT substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/tempest-vs-defra-and-rural-payments

Tempest (a TW) is claiming discrimination, harassment and/or victimisation on grounds of gender reassignment. Central to the claim is the existence of the Sex Equality and Equity Network in the Civil Service (SEEN). SEEN has been granted right to intervene. Parts of the original claim against the co-chair of SEEN (Elspeth Duemmer-Wrigley) and another party (Andreas Mueller) were struck out or narrowed. Another claimant, PQ, is no longer part of the case.

Please note that Elspeth still has a garden in need of seeds and water to support the ability of SEEN to be an intervenor in this case. The claim originated because she said "only women menstruate" and a search with her name and those terms at the usual gardening website should point you to her plot.

CA Harm seems to be from watching doc which anyone can choose whether or not they watch

👏

In my fantasy, the work experience kid who hacked up and pushed that bit of code live has been … dealt with.

J Sorry, I have the circle of death.

I had it today for the first time, in a bizarrely inconsistent way. However, it seems to have gone away again. Fingers crossed.

I think he is......Technology glitches have a habit of reflecting your mental state.

J Sorry, I have the circle of death

No comment.

To answer a previous question re how CA is holding up - I think CA's lawyerly training from earlier in her career is kicking in.

The pathetic fallacy, updated for the 21st century...

This Dominic Berry chappie shit stirring joined a group in order to spy on them and report back to the Defra Traliban.

At this rate we are not going to get the last two respondent witnesses fully heard by COP tomorrow. I think that might be preferable so it’s not just EDW and closing arguments they have to reconvene for. It’s going to be another week at least.

I blow fuses for fun! True story!

Is anyone surprised by this?

Anyone....?

No one!

Sorry, I have the
circle of death. Just going
round and round. Frozen.

A haiku

(Just like the round of questioning)

From TT:

HH Says can be seen by all colleagues. And post was liked by group chair and admin calling into q ability of group to self-mod. Referring there to AM?
CA I don't know.

HH [back to rows - can't find] ST complaining that someone responsible for mod - marking your own homework.
CA IAO does mod and that wasn't AM.
HH Was EW
CA Yes
HH Does that q EW's ability to mod group

CA That AM liked it
HH The post itself.
CA Post was removed
HH You are entrusting mod to groups themselves
CA After this.
HH ST c q of group to self-mod. Group not self-mod at this point

Tech issues. Have taken notes. To Mumnet thread.

From TT:

HH MN post from MrsOVertonsWindow suggesting sending to Sex Matters. Someone who works for Defra/aware of Y thread
CA Can't assume Defra employee, may know c Y cos discussed on Mnet
HH But someone suggesting taking screenshot of internal thread and sending it to org

GC
CA Yes. And to press. And later in thread someone saying don't - not acceptable.
HH 'SlothToes' posting - unsafe at work, pity their managers, massive eye roll. Author of this is aware t colleagues expressing concern c their safety at work.
CA yes, that comes out of

To Mumnet thread.

Stand by!

Tech issues. Have taken notes. To Mumnet thread.

Is that from TT to us? Awww that's sweet, thank you TT, 👋

no I think it means we're the next topic! I was confused too as I posted

Tech issues. Have taken notes. To Mumnet thread.

Love TT!!!!

Christ this is tedious

I'm sure it was both, so 👋to TT from us anyway

I don't care which way it's meant! I love that it's a separate tweet!

No, it was a quote from HH not TT!

HH But someone suggesting taking screenshot of internal thread and sending it to org [Sex Matters]
CA Yes. And to press. And later in thread someone saying don't - not acceptable.

Of course, we're all CLAW.

ST explains g reassignment not an ideology.

”My side of the woods abounds in natural scenic splendor. Your side wallows in filth and decay. My territory is infinitely superior to yours.”

Conversations put people at risk......especially those on mumsnet.

HH MN post from MrsOVertonsWindow suggesting sending to Sex Matters.

How very dare you Mrs O!