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Cameron Diaz “has third child” aged 53

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Namingbaba · 06/05/2026 17:00

It worries me that some people just read headlines like this and think all these women have children naturally. At least that’s the impression I got from reading the comments on this story. The surrogacy sometimes isn’t even mentioned.

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flapjackfairy · 09/08/2026 13:34

ILoveAGingerCat · 09/08/2026 11:22

It's nothing like saying a firefighter is the same as an arsonist.

Both situations result in a baby being removed from its birth mother.

At least with surrogacy, the woman plans to have the baby often with the couple's egg and sperm, and knows she will be giving it to them.

Adoption is a woman forced to give her baby away because of various reasons, sometimes financial, sometimes practical, sometimes because family force it.

Behind every couple who are delighted at their new little adopted bundle of joy, lies a devastated birth mother who had to give up her baby.

How anyone can say adoption is better than surrogacy just baffles me.

And most likely removed because the birth mother cannot care for it. That can be for many reasons such as addiction, dangerous partner , inability to care safely etc etc.
Children in the UK are not removed lightly.
Adoption is about keeping an existing child safe and surrogacy is about creating a child for an adults benefit and causing harm to.them in the process.
World's apart

flapjackfairy · 09/08/2026 13:36

And most likely removed because the birth mother cannot care for it. That can be for many reasons such as addiction, dangerous partner , inability to care safely etc etc.
Children in the UK are not removed lightly.
Adoption is about keeping an existing child safe and surrogacy is about creating a child for an adults benefit and causing harm to.them in the process.
World's apart

sittingonabeach · 09/08/2026 13:50

ILoveAGingerCat · 09/08/2026 11:13

Exactly. Despite all the hatred and loathing for surrogacy on Mumsnet (from some) adoption is not much different.

They are worlds apart as surrogacy you plan to cause that trauma for a child just to become a parent. Not thinking of the resultant child at all

With adoption the child is already in existence and so what is in the best interests of that child has to be thought about.

I can’t understand why people can’t see the difference

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 09/08/2026 13:56

flapjackfairy · 09/08/2026 13:34

And most likely removed because the birth mother cannot care for it. That can be for many reasons such as addiction, dangerous partner , inability to care safely etc etc.
Children in the UK are not removed lightly.
Adoption is about keeping an existing child safe and surrogacy is about creating a child for an adults benefit and causing harm to.them in the process.
World's apart

I wouldn't bother. I and others have already tried to explain to that poster how ridiculously inaccurate their understand of adoption is and they, perhaps unsurprising, don't acknowledge or interact with those posts.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/08/2026 18:16

ILoveAGingerCat · 09/08/2026 11:19

The chances of a woman carrying to full term is so breathtakingly low that it doesn't even register. It is virtually zero per cent.

Women have not historically had babies in their 50s. In the vast VAST majority of cases, women in their 50s took on their daughter or niece's baby that she had out of wedlock, and raised it as her own. Great Granny Fanny, and Great Auntie Lulu, did NOT have uncle John and Auntie Pam when they were 52-55 years old!

Stop spreading myths and inaccurate information. Women in their mid 50s are NOT having babies naturally. 99.99% of them are not even 'catching' pregnant, and the very very VERY few who are, are not going to full term and having the baby!

It would be interesting to know the age of the oldest woman to conceive naturally in the UK

Lins77 · 09/08/2026 19:11

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/08/2026 18:16

It would be interesting to know the age of the oldest woman to conceive naturally in the UK

According to Google:

The oldest recorded British woman to conceive and give birth naturally is Dawn Brooke, who had a baby boy at the age of 59 on August 20, 1997. She conceived the child accidentally after unexpectedly ovulating past her last normal period.

edited to say: I am 58 and I am 100% certain this will not be happening to me!!

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