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The Times article on surrogacy and concerns about single fathers

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Sixorhalfdozen · 23/04/2026 19:52

Hi all, I haven’t seen a post yet about the article in today’s Times on surrogacy with the title, ‘What it is like to be a single dad (with a child via surrogacy)’. It is an entirely uncritical puff piece on single men who purchase babies and there is no attempt in the article to highlight the risks and harms caused by this barbaric practice. I have written to complain and encourage others to do the same.

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Helpboat · Yesterday 17:39

elgreco · 23/04/2026 20:51

Single men buying babies, i wonder how many are buying them for nefarious reasons?
I hate that i am so cynical.

You’re not. Predators with predator. The two men who adopted a baby boy and raped him to death is one example of many. This horrifying.

logiccalls · Yesterday 19:05

Helpboat · Yesterday 17:39

You’re not. Predators with predator. The two men who adopted a baby boy and raped him to death is one example of many. This horrifying.

The popular preacher, gay- turned- even- more- trendy 'trans', in one USA State, who, with his gay partner, was allowed to take possession of the baby they bought, because that is contract law. He tokenistically changed his address to that of his mother, nearby.

That was enough to satisfy the court, despite the difficulty that the still-pregnant mother had asked the court to cancel the contract, in order to keep the baby. She no longer wanted to hand it over, after there was publicity about a tweet he had posted to the local gay group.

He had said how excited he was at the prospect of getting the newborn baby home and being the "very first person to enter that brand new little body". He mused he might invite a group of friends to "take part in the celebration" .

OneDivineHammer · Yesterday 19:32

Shortshriftandlethal · Yesterday 10:28

Also, a lot of these gay men seem to, miraculously, have only boys. I do wonder whether this is consciously planned, and female embryos are destroyed or terminated?

I assume it is a deliberate reporting choice: readers might unquestioningly accept two gay dads and a baby boy, but be more likely to start thinking suspicious thoughts if confronted with the image of two adult men and a defenceless baby girl.

Though the story referenced above (which I've not heard of before) of course underlines that child abusers may also have male targets. I imagine, though, that girls are more common victims (though I have no evidence and no wish to go searching for it either).

brunetteorblonde · Yesterday 19:50

Of course the comments are turned off, no mention of the risks to the women especially when using 2 women, I like and subscribe to the Times and they have, on the whole, been good about GC issues but with surrogacy they are shocking but continue to endorse it strongly

AncientBallerina · Yesterday 20:17

A baby boy is as defenceless as a baby girl

Arran2024 · Yesterday 21:14

You mostly can't adopt a child overseas and bring it here. The problem is that with surrogacy the father is the genetic father - that's why it is possible to bring the child in. I guess a lot of men based legitimately overseas would find their children wouldn't qualify to come to the UK if they tightened up on it. Here are the rules atm https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&source=android-browser&q=surrigate+baby+born+abroad+bringing+to+the+uk#lfId=ChxjMe

Before you continue to Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&ie=UTF-8&q=surrigate+baby+born+abroad+bringing+to+the+uk&source=android-browser#lfId=ChxjMe

viques · Yesterday 21:54

Such disgraceful and sickening articles. That anyone can buy another human being if they have enough money is a really retrograde step for humanity , for thousands of years humans have bought and sold other humans until eventually we were so repulsed that civilised nations halted the abhorrent practice.. Then along came in vitro fertilisation, and suddenly the revulsion largely disappeared in the face of selfish demands and willingness for wealthier people to exploit the bodies of poorer people.

And now it appears the practice is so morally lax that clinics and potential parents are prepared to implant FOUR embryos into a surrogate. FOUR. No apparent concern for the very likely permanent damage to the surrogates body, or for the health and well being for the developing babies, despite the very well established medical evidence of the issues facing multiple births from twin to twin syndrome to premature birth.

Surely the very fact that these complacent, greedy, self obsessed men are prepared to endanger children's emotional and physical health, to deny them emotional contact with their mothers, and to exploit womens bodies in pursuit of their selfish ends should be the very factors that make them unsuitable to be considered for inclusion in any form of parenting , whether it be adoption or surrogacy.

Money talks. Surrogacy stinks .

Helpboat · Yesterday 22:36

logiccalls · Yesterday 19:05

The popular preacher, gay- turned- even- more- trendy 'trans', in one USA State, who, with his gay partner, was allowed to take possession of the baby they bought, because that is contract law. He tokenistically changed his address to that of his mother, nearby.

That was enough to satisfy the court, despite the difficulty that the still-pregnant mother had asked the court to cancel the contract, in order to keep the baby. She no longer wanted to hand it over, after there was publicity about a tweet he had posted to the local gay group.

He had said how excited he was at the prospect of getting the newborn baby home and being the "very first person to enter that brand new little body". He mused he might invite a group of friends to "take part in the celebration" .

Yeah surrogacy ought to be banned.

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