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"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 6

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ThreeWordHarpy · 04/11/2025 10:44

Thread 1, 7-Oct to 23-Oct; pre-hearing discussion, KD (day 1 of evidence) and BH (day 2).
Thread 2, 23-Oct to 28-Oct; BH (day 2), CH, JP, MG (day 3&4), TH, SS, ST, LL (day 4), JS, AT (day 5)
Thread 3, 28-Oct to 29-Oct; AT (day 5&6), TA (day 6&7)
Thread 4, 29-Oct to 31-Oct; TA, AM (day 7) JB (day 8)
Thread 5, 31-Oct to 04-Nov; JB (day 8), SW, CG, JR (day 9)

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, Rose, who identifies as female. The hearing started on October 20th, with evidence starting on October 22nd and is scheduled to last 3 weeks. To view the hearing online requests for access had to be made by October 17th. The hearing is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets who have background to this case on their substack. An alternative to X is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

The Judge made clear at the start of the public hearing on Day 1 that only TT or press have permission to tweet. If online observers see/hear something in the court that isn’t reported by TT, we don’t mention it until the next time there’s a break. This is a very cautious approach to avoid any accusations of “live reporting” on MN. Commentary on the content of TT tweets is fine as soon as they’re posted on X.

Key people:
C/Ns - Claimants, the Darlington nurses
R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
J/EJ – Judge/Employment Judge Seamus Sweeney
NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for claimants
SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents
RH - Rose Henderson, trans identifying nurse
CG – Clare Gregory, NHS ward manager
SW - Sue Williams, NHS Trust HR
KD – Karen Danson, first claimant to give evidence.
BH – Bethany Hutchison, claimant
AH – Alistair Hutchison, husband of Bethany
CH – Carly Hoy, claimant
JP – Jane Peveller, claimant
MG – Mary Anne (aka Annice) Grundy, claimant
TH – Tracy Hooper, claimant
SS – Siobhan Sinclair, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust
ST – Sharron Trevarrow, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust, former housekeeper and wellbeing officer
LL – Lisa Lockey, claimant
JP – Professor Jo Phoenix, expert witness
JS – Jane Shields, witness for the claimants
AT - Andrew Thacker, NHS trust Head of HR
TA – Tracy Atkinson, NHS trust HR.
AM – Andrew Moore, NHS Head of Workforce Experience
JB – Jillian Bailey, NHS Workforce Experience Manager
AT – Anna Telfer, NHS Deputy Director of Nursing
SW – Sandra Watson, Matron for General and Elective Surgery
JR – Jodie Robinson, manager of Rose

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ArabellaSaurus · 04/11/2025 11:43

BettyBooper · 04/11/2025 11:28

Do you remember when a bloke stripping down to his holey boxers in the ladies would have been arrested, not treated as Super Special Sparkles by a court?

Ah, those were the days...

A man stripping down to his underwear in the ladies is evidence of his super special inner feelings, and so must be honoured, nay, treasured, as the marginalised, vulnerable, delicate and special brave chap that she is.

IDareSay · 04/11/2025 11:44

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 04/11/2025 11:37

<Munches on freshly made chip but tie with tomato sauce>

So far I have had my breakfast, my lunch, a packet of crisps and a Club (no Tunnocks in the house, sad times).

I'll be eating my dinner soon if this delay carries on much longer...

Workmen in the house so I am confined to the kitchen with the dogs, which is great for following the tribunal, but not so great for my waistline. I'll have to take the dogs out eventually and sod's law the tribunal will resume!

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 04/11/2025 11:45

I had all morning clear for desk work but my meetings start again at 12. Expect things to kick off then!

murasaki · 04/11/2025 11:45

I was going to wait until lunch for my fish finger sandwich, but I might give in and have it now.

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 11:46

As we cant all hug them a reminder that Support the Darlington Nurses will find a garden where we could all put a flower or 2.

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 04/11/2025 11:47

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 04/11/2025 11:45

I had all morning clear for desk work but my meetings start again at 12. Expect things to kick off then!

I've got to go out about the same time so you may well be right. 😂

If this delay goes on for ages do we think that means RH may run into tomorrow?

Justnot · 04/11/2025 11:49

I have got shit I should be doing but instead I’m sitting here with split screen (get me) pressing refresh on here and nitter - on tenterhooks
(I did just have a little burst of productivity but now back to nervous refreshing)

Boiledbeetle · 04/11/2025 11:51

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 11:46

As we cant all hug them a reminder that Support the Darlington Nurses will find a garden where we could all put a flower or 2.

As we can't publish links...

Here's a nice photo of it!

"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 6
MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 04/11/2025 11:53

Still nothing!! I may have to break for lunch too, I bought some nice cheese yesterday and I can hear it calling me from the fridge....

27pilates · 04/11/2025 11:53

Thanks @Boiledbeetle
some flowers planted x

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 04/11/2025 11:55

Feminaperfecta · 04/11/2025 11:41

It's healthy if it's on whole grain bread, right? Asking for a friend.

Am ashamed to say yes, had no thick sliced white 😫

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 04/11/2025 11:57

Justnot · 04/11/2025 11:49

I have got shit I should be doing but instead I’m sitting here with split screen (get me) pressing refresh on here and nitter - on tenterhooks
(I did just have a little burst of productivity but now back to nervous refreshing)

I read this as ‘I have got a shit I should be doing’ …
Felt that was a sign of real commitment!

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 04/11/2025 11:59

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 04/11/2025 11:57

I read this as ‘I have got a shit I should be doing’ …
Felt that was a sign of real commitment!

😂

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · 04/11/2025 11:59

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 04/11/2025 11:57

I read this as ‘I have got a shit I should be doing’ …
Felt that was a sign of real commitment!

😂

Justnot · 04/11/2025 11:59

Haha pmsl

YouCantProveIt · 04/11/2025 12:01

Anyone else remember during the waits in the Peggie trial there was a lot of chat about scones and in piped someone letting everyone off for being off topic.

At least we're not getting scolded over early lunches today. Although I've already had two breakfasts and am so bored I could eat again.... maybe a tea instead.

Datun · 04/11/2025 12:01

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 04/11/2025 11:57

I read this as ‘I have got a shit I should be doing’ …
Felt that was a sign of real commitment!

😆

Easytoconfuse · 04/11/2025 12:02

Maybe if we all type in capitals that we've got to go out it'll make something happen? A bit like a watched pot never boils.

MarieDeGournay · 04/11/2025 12:02

I thought I'd missed a whole morning's action, but no..
If he is going to appear I hope Rose is treated exactly the same as other witnesses. It appears that nothing has been out of bounds up to now, so there's no reason why he can't be questioned in the same way as everyone else.

Are there discussions going on about pronouns I wonder? I think it has been established that where gender v sex is at the heart of a case, it is OK to use the pronoun corresponding to a person's sex.

ILikeDungs · 04/11/2025 12:03

YouCantProveIt · 04/11/2025 12:01

Anyone else remember during the waits in the Peggie trial there was a lot of chat about scones and in piped someone letting everyone off for being off topic.

At least we're not getting scolded over early lunches today. Although I've already had two breakfasts and am so bored I could eat again.... maybe a tea instead.

My Saintly DH has just brought coffee (again), bless him

Boiledbeetle · 04/11/2025 12:03

I've just realised I have a white sliced in the freezer, along with frozen chips AND butter in the fridge.

I may have to have a chip buttie at lunch.

Seriestwo · 04/11/2025 12:04

Open justice that isn’t open isn’t justice, right?

StanfreyPock · 04/11/2025 12:04

Currently can't choose between fish finger butty or chip butty 🤔

SidewaysOtter · 04/11/2025 12:04

I have rice cakes and a too-ripe banana as my WFTCHTJ snacks. Sad Times, as I'd really rather have a nice Tunnocks.

SidewaysOtter · 04/11/2025 12:05

StanfreyPock · 04/11/2025 12:04

Currently can't choose between fish finger butty or chip butty 🤔

Fish finger sandwich with a side of chips?

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