"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread

[ThreeWordHarpy]

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, “Rose”, who:

• identifies as female
• has not undergone any physical or hormonal transition and has full male genitalia
• has cited inclusivity policies
• is backed by the trust’s HR department
• has been granted access to a single-sex changing room for women.

The NHS trust’s HR department dismissed the nurses’ concerns, stating they should “broaden their mindset” and “be educated”. More details can be found at Sex Matters

The hearing is due to start on October 20th and is scheduled to last 3 weeks. To view the hearing online email: [email protected] [[email protected]] requesting remote access to the case of 2501192/2024 Hutchinson and others Vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust, starting 20th October. Also include your full name and your role in the hearing (eg member of the public or observer). Note, it is likely you will need the same full name and email address to log into the hearing, and the name will be visible to other observers.

The hearing will be live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets. An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets have more background to this case on their substack, including links to their coverage of the earlier hearings.

In earlier hearings reported at http://archive.today/nh5v9, the claimants were supported by the Christian Legal Centre and represented by Pavel Stroilov (solicitor) and Bruno Quentaville (barrister). The respondents were represented by Simon Cheetham KC. We do not know yet if the same representation will be in place for the October hearing

Background information from Christian Concern who are supporting the nurses via the CLC.

https://x.com/CConcern/status/1977288671142253037

"BREAKING: Darlington nurses reported to Nursing and Midwifery Council for speaking out over NHS Policy that forces them to undress in front of a man The four complaints from members of the public include accusations, after the nurses gave media interviews, of ‘transphobia’, demands that they be struck off the professional register, and even a report to police for alleged ‘hate crime’. The Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities, Rt. Hon.
@ClaireCoutinho has slammed the development, saying: “It is beyond belief that these four remarkable nurses may now be dragged through another vexatious disciplinary process simply because they stood up against radical transgender ideology in the NHS and defended their legal right to single-sex spaces. “Our institutions have been captured by an ideology that wants to pretend that biological sex isn’t real and puts the feelings of transgender women above the rights of women to get changed in dignity, privacy, and safety. “The Government needs to get a grip and intervene to make sure the Darlington Nurses and Jennifer Melle are not punished for believing that women are women.” The nurses are being supported by lawyers at the Christian Legal Centre, with their full employment tribunal scheduled to begin in Newcastle on October 22."

Oh FFS.

I bet i could name the four vexatious complainers….

It’s awful for them but it exposes the ridiculous state of the transactivists even more. Most normal people will be both baffled and repulsed by this.

I won't link to the crowdfunder, but in the early hours of this morning Graham Linehan set one up to pay for a private detective to compile a dossier on these men. As you say @GargoylesofBeelzebub many of us could name them.
He has already hit his target 😘

Yes, I’m sure most of FWR could name the “members of the public” who complained, particular the one that went to the police to report a hate crime. FFS.

FFS. It is not transphobic to not want to get changed into your work uniform in front of a bloke.

Oh, for pity's sake.

Thanks for the heads up. Off to donate. Legalgengar is also tackling them and I have also donated to that.

This is going to turn up the heat on the run-up to the hearing. It's awful that the nurses have to deal with this extra stress, which I guess was the goal of the complainants.

But those four "concerned members of the public" don't realise that vexatious actions like this only increase the public sympathy for the nurses and damage the cause of trans rights.

It adds to the dramatic picture of the angelic nurses speaking plain common sense being targeted by a few women-hating obsessive weirdos, while a cash-strapped NHS bleeds money for the sake of a minority ideology. With every action TRAs are peaking more and more people. Keep up the good work lads!

Just because they've been reported it doesnt mean the NMC need to do anything about it. They could politely tell the vexatious TRAs to bog off - they won't of course because NMC think the nurses are being unreasonable. That's the thing with all of these reports; they could tell these men to fuck off but they never do

they won't of course because NMC think the nurses are being unreasonable.

Hmm. I'm more hopeful on that front. They did refuse to represent Sandie Peggie. But she's now suing them, which shoud make them have a little think. And since the SC judgement their policy does seem to have done a reverse ferret.

The NMC are the professional regulatory body for nurses and midwives (and completely captured) but it is the union, the RCN (royal College of Nursing) that Sandie Peggie is suing.

All these TLAs do meld into one after a while!

Surely if they end up in trouble with the NMC then that will increase any damages in their claim against their Trust? It’s the Trust’s illegal practices that caused them to whistleblow

I think the vexatious four are on a slow path to self destruction, they are evil, vicious bullies, but simply don’t have the brains of their opposition.

I struggled to find this, so if anyone is looking, it's on GiveSendGo and says 'Let's hire a private detective'.
They're already at 5k. I'm definitely going to follow for updates.

Piece in The Telegraph

Nurses could face misconduct probe over transgender changing room row

The NMC website has free speech guidance.

It acknowledges specifically that Gender Critical beliefs are protected.

They should be fine. They've already got lawyers.

www.nmc.org.uk/ftp-library/understanding-fitness-to-practise/fitness-to-practise-allegations/misconduct/freedom-of-expression-and-fitness-to-practise/

Checking into the thread, having sent off my access request email. I suspect we all know who the four members of the public making complaints are

I'll bite.

30 women were relegated to a space just about the size for half a dozen.

That space has no benches, lockers, toilets, sinks, or showers.

Rose has been given a 30 person space with benches, a vast choice lockers, sinks and showers, all to himself.

Your move.

It’s appalling @SinnerBoy

Argh - yes, of course they are. Thanks for untangling me.

Thank you @ThreeWordHarpy for the tribunal details. I’m very appreciative.

No matter how captured these organisations are - their in-house lawyers or whatever central legal services they have - post SC confirmation that men remain men (despite any mental illness of AGP or gender dysphoria or just plain old perversion) and so should be advising their clients to settle.

And those legally responsible - should know that having received such legal advice they would be in breach of their legal and fiduciary duties by ignoring it.

Stupid stupid people.

They don't have to break them. All they have to do is a 'thorough investigation' that puts people under pressure for years and bingo, there they are, 'the process is the punishment.' This technique is widely used across public services...

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:37

It’s appalling

I agree, the idea is to punish the women who complain. It's almost beyond belief to me.

So he will be attending court. I don't know if Iain Masterton will be able to attend - if not I expect there will be press photogs about? I'd imagine pics could be in high demand.