Hundreds of firms warn new guidance on single sex spaces is ‘unworkable’ and would cause ‘significant economic harm’

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More than 650 organisations have urged Bridget Phillipson to ‘take immediate action to prevent these proposals from moving forward’

“We, the undersigned businesses and organisations, are writing to express our deep concern at proposals seeking to enforce blanket, mandatory exclusion of trans people from gendered spaces and services.

“The proposals made in the EHRC’s draft Code of Practice under the Equality Act would have serious and far-reaching consequences for UK businesses, our employees, and our customers.

“Many of us have spent years building inclusive environments where all customers and staff feel safe and welcome. These proposals would tell us to act in ways that directly contradict those commitments; undermining trust, damaging reputations, and risking the loss of valued staff and customers.”

They also express concern that the proposals would put them at “constant risk of complaints and litigation from multiple directions”, as well as forcing “business staff into the unacceptable role of ‘gender police’”.

“Such practices are not only deeply invasive, but likely impossible to implement without breaching Article 8 of The Human Rights Act, which protects rights to privacy, and risking discriminating against valued trans customers and colleagues”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/supreme-court-trans-single-sex-spaces-b2826924.html

So women's rights are less important than commercial compliance.

Dont tell lies.

If you were even a tiny feminist you would be aware of the problems in Spain over self ID and men in womens single sex spaces.

The question was are female prisoners in Spain being locked up with male offenders.

If you're a feminist then you should think this question is important.

why would i be a "pick me"? please elaborate, I go to the toilet to pee, not to pick men, that's what dating apps are for not public bathrooms 🤣

The pre-teen girls who were sexually assaulted by the trans identifying man known as "Katie Dolatowski" were also just going to the toilet to pee.

So you're still ignoring all the other questions

yeah, we see you

Off topic but I recently visited a construction site in Germany and the ladies' toilets were clean enough to eat your dinner off the floor and had free sanpro.

Unlike the unisex bathroom thing (which has no debate in Spain) i believe there's some sort of issue with what you just said, and yes, there's an ongoing debate about it in spain as it has proven to be problematic. I haven't really dwelve deep into it so I really don't know the specifics but the goverment is trying to come to some solution regarding the issue.

Frankly, the piss on the loo seats is reason enough to have separate male and female loos. There is a big list of other reasons, but women and girls shouldn't have to put up with pissy seats and having to clean up after a bloke before they use the loo.

So Louise, how big are the baths in these public Spanish Bathrooms? Are you just another plopper from the US?

Blimey, how long does it take a bunch of people of presumably average intelligence or higher to work out you don’t put blokes in with the women?

Perdigones states that his ‘inner lesbian’ should be given legal ascendancy over his ‘outer heterosexual man’ simply because he says so

Self id working well in Spain

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/spanish-soldiers-have-exposed-the-flaw-in-the-countrys-gender-self-id-law/

There are a lot of student unions and LGBT charities in this list.
Hardly businesses who are about to go under as a result of complying with the law?

I haven't really dwelve deep into it so I really don't know the specifics but the goverment is trying to come to some solution regarding the issue.

Off you pop then. Go and do some dwelving. It'll be a much better use of your time than telling us how we should feel about men in our spaces.

The last one I used two months ago was massive, it was a museum in Madrid that has just opened and the bathroom was full of people, both male and female, probably 10 toilets and 10 sinks.

Sounds horrendous

I just can't understand how managers and businesses aren't ashamed to claim such incompetence. They ought to be embarrassed!

Also the Vagina Museum is there in solidarity; it really does struggle with getting to grips with what a woman is.

I was just about to say the same. I can’t imagine how much piss there’d be all over the seat and floor, 30 minutes after cleaning, in that kind of high traffic environment. 🤢

I can think of much better things to do than researching the state of the prison system in my country in order to satisfy your curiosity.

Google is your friend.

But how many baths did it have?

Its also very odd that there is always someone on a thread who willingly cooperates with someone trying to hijack a thread.

So that threads make sense and serve a purpose just ignore and move on to the actual topic.

They are just winding you up and you are falling for it.

It's a guarantee that anyone wearing some of those God awful dungarees is a self satisfied numpty.

I would put money on the 'baby fascist' Lib Dem shouter (as an example) wearing these regularly.

Well spotted.

Good to know some are so committed to be inclusive that they dont want anyone to know.

So what?

You wouldn't be satisfying my curiosity. I don't actually care what's going on in other countries. But you really should educate yourself if you're going to post on here about how wonderful and progressive Spain is.

You call yourself a feminist and yet you haven't bothered to inform yourself about this subject?

The fact that there is even a debate about it shows what a misogynistic society Spain unfortunately is. There shouldn't be any debate about it. It is very simple. Locking vulnerable female prisoners up with male offenders is a breach of their human rights.

If men who believe they identify as women can't handle being sent to a men's prison, they need to refrain from committing crimes.