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Custody officer job withdrawn for GC beliefs - Gribbon (SP legal team) is his solicitor

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InterrobangsArePureBias · 02/08/2025 11:12

I wonder how many more of such actions will be launched. To adapt Jimmy Doyle’s phrase, “the spectacle of this nation’s [lanyard classes] enforcing moral auto-lobotomy as a condition of entry to [employment]”.

A prison custody officer who was sacked for saying he would not address male-born transgender inmates as ‘she’ or ‘her’ has launched legal action against one of the UK’s largest security firms.
Army veteran David Toshack, 50, was dismissed by GEOAmey during a training course only days before taking up a role as a prison custody officer (PCO) at Kirkcaldy Sheriff Court.
The father of three told a safeguarding workshop that he would not be comfortable using a transgender inmates’ preferred gender pronouns and expressed his belief that a man could not become a woman.
It sparked a horrified reaction from bosses at the firm, which employs thousands of justice workers across the UK, who said his views were against the law and company policy.

He said: ‘I’m just a normal, working class person who’s never been in trouble with the law before, not got a criminal record, lived a good life. I’ve been prepared to go and fight and die for my country, and then I have come back here and been told that there’s certain things you can’t think or can’t say.’

https://archive.is/bxjqC

Original story about David Toshack in Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14963309/Prison-custody-officer-sacked-refusing-call-male-born-trans-prisoners-her.html

I was sacked for refusing to call trans prisoners 'she', says officer

A prison custody officer who was sacked for saying he would not address male-born transgender inmates as 'she' or 'her' has launched legal action against one of the UK's largest security firms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14963309/Prison-custody-officer-sacked-refusing-call-male-born-trans-prisoners-her.html

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ickky · 29/01/2026 14:21

FROM TT

MM U have sanitised yr views for this ET
DT No I've explained them. U can dislike an ideology but not hate individuals who believe it or are in it
MM You have mocked certain T indivs eg Dr Upton, a model, and sportsperson. U singled them out, so u have gone for indivs

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:22

What the fuck is this barrister on about. FFS

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 14:22

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 14:19

This guy questioning has no idea what he's on about.

I’m still WFTCHTJ but based on the TT posts I’m quite happy to be….the clown was irritating the life out of me this morning.

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:23

FROM TT

Dt Its not the indivs themselves but the ideology that's allowed things to happen. I was v polite w my daughters friends
MM If this is their true identity and the person and gender they are. For u to mock the whole belief system is attacking these individuals personally
DT No. It's not true. I dont think an athesist is attacking me

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 14:23

MM - JUST SAY IT!

Wtaf?

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 14:24

MM - she said she invited you to leave the room, because everyone else was feeling uncomfortable,

And when they are expected to manage an actual violent person

she will.......

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:25

FROM TT

DT They can mock me and my ideas. It soesnt meant they hate me
MM Yr anti Pride and DEI as a concept
DT No
MM Yr splitting hairs
DT It's not just me. I have friends who are gay who believe the same thing
M That doesnt mean its ok
DT But it doesnt make me a hateful bigot

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/01/2026 14:25

I like DT - I think he comes across very well. Clear and straightforward, and not playing with words.

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:26

FROM TT

MM Y're saying I cant be antigay as I have gay friends. All these concepts - DEI, LGBTQ- are all a woke thing that y're against. We can see u lump them tog incl unconc bias training in yr head. Yr anti- diversity, unclusion and Pride
DT I dont hate anyone
MM I say u have antipathy to them. I didnt use the word hate. Yr against what they stand for and what they believe

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 14:28

You must believe!!! 2+2=5 you bigot!

I feel like I'm watching an indoctrination session. This is unbelievable.

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:28

FROM TT

DT They dont beleive my Christian belief. Are they anti me?
MM It's the mocking, emojis and sarcasm. They display to the worls anf this ET u have a deep antipathy to these ideas and ppl
DT My words may be found offensive but that language isnt uncommon in my world. Swearing etc

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:28

I think MM is finishing up and trying to rile up DT

GardyLou · 29/01/2026 14:30

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:28

I think MM is finishing up and trying to rile up DT

He wants to be Tom Cruise in A few good men, bless.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 14:30

GardyLou · 29/01/2026 14:30

He wants to be Tom Cruise in A few good men, bless.

He’s more like Tom Cruise on Oprah’s sofa

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:31

FROM TT

DT Its the environment I grew up in. It's not extremist.
MM So you think it's ok to be [missed]
MM In the Army u followed procedures. It's full of rules and proceedures that have to be followed.
DT In general, yes
MM It's rule based and u were there for 15 yrs. Rules have to be followed
DT We did what we felt best at the time when yr out on yr own and u occas go a little bit rogue. So it's not 100% true

HamSandwichIrnBru · 29/01/2026 14:31

For u to mock the whole belief system is attacking these individuals personally

No it's bloody not!

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 14:32

Oooh but sarcasm?! How very blooming dare he!

BettyBooper · 29/01/2026 14:32

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:31

FROM TT

DT Its the environment I grew up in. It's not extremist.
MM So you think it's ok to be [missed]
MM In the Army u followed procedures. It's full of rules and proceedures that have to be followed.
DT In general, yes
MM It's rule based and u were there for 15 yrs. Rules have to be followed
DT We did what we felt best at the time when yr out on yr own and u occas go a little bit rogue. So it's not 100% true

'Rules have to be followed'

Like FWS? 🤔

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:32

FROM TT

MM In a diff context rules are v important in prisons as some present dangers to others
DT Yes
MM It;s important that ppl know what's going to happen and u said it's important to write things down
DT Yes
MM CH was going to discuss this. U can have vulnerablr T ppl

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 14:34

HamSandwichIrnBru · 29/01/2026 14:31

For u to mock the whole belief system is attacking these individuals personally

No it's bloody not!

This sums up the utter ridiculousness of the ideology. “If you dont validate it me you are as good as murdering me” bollocks.

AnSolas · 29/01/2026 14:34

MM - you would tick the male box, that's what your beliefs would lead
you to do.
DT - yes

If DT was asked to transport a female to a male prison

As has happened collected from Fife Court deilvered to the male prison

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-wrongly-processed-as-man-and-sent-to-all-male-prison-13243357

Funny how its only TW handling process which is sampled

Woman wrongly processed as man and sent to all-male prison

Once the gaffe came to light at HMP Perth, the woman was kept in segregation overnight and transported to the female prison estate the following morning.

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-wrongly-processed-as-man-and-sent-to-all-male-prison-13243357

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:34

FROM TT

MM So great care must be taken w their GI
DT There was something by a trainer saying it was to stop them getting at people [??]
MM There was a violent outburst where PCOs didnt respect a prionsers GI. There is scope for these flash points
DT Why I'd use their name
MM Is it reasonable

HamSandwichIrnBru · 29/01/2026 14:35

SternJoyousBeev2 · 29/01/2026 14:34

This sums up the utter ridiculousness of the ideology. “If you dont validate it me you are as good as murdering me” bollocks.

Hence the LITERAL GENOCIDE!!!!!

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:36

FROM TT

DT I think so. It's a workaround. I cld ask someone more senior or a colleague for advise
MM It's in the policy
MM It asked how the ID and want to be referred to
DT I cld ask for advice
MM If they say that's a TW and u must use F PPs
DT I can use there name
MM U have a choice betwn 1 box and another

ickky · 29/01/2026 14:37

MM is really labouring this point, he has gone over it more than 3 times already.

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