NHS Policy Audit - working party - thread #2

[KnottyAuty]

This is a thread about “keeping the receipts” on NHS Policies prior to the Supreme Court ruling on 16th April 2025.

Our working theory is that there were no single sex spaces for NHS Staff or Patients in the entire country before that date, having all been removed by stealth. We are aiming to prove this by auditing websites and policies for all the UK trusts and using the results to raise public awareness. As well as recording what has happened historically, the information will form a baseline so we can check which Trusts comply or defy the judgement in due course.

We are working around the country region by region. If you fancy getting involved in a bit of grassroots feminism then please do join in to help!? Each trust takes about an hour to research and you can upload online without giving any personal details away. Comment below and we can give you the link to an online survey - it changes for each region.

Thanks soooo much to all the vipers who have helped so far and @ Twoloons for doing a great job with the thread wrangling!

Here are the press articles we’ve managed to generate so far:

Scotland:
25th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/dTUhY
26th March: Scottish Daily Express
https://archive.is/kaLCB
26th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/iSD9m

London:
21st April: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/awGuz
23rd April: The Telegraph (in conjunction with another thread by NHS mumsnetters)
https://archive.is/1DO8d

Original thread #1 here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

Hi thanks for this! We are working around the UK region by region. So if you can bear with us we will hopefully get to your area soon. There’s a new link for each region to keep the size of the files reasonable. Please do DM me your region and I’ll try to remember to flag when we get there. Thank you!

Hello vipers! Looks like you’ve been amazingly busy while I’ve been away. I’m not completely back yet, but I have a signal so if you give me a bit, I’ll see what the list looks like. Back shortly!

God that’s awful @nothingcomestonothing
My trust does have a Women’s network albeit open to anyone who identifies as a woman and not very active at all. Also I have dared to poke my head above the parapet once or twice eg pulling up the comms team for something gender neutral they posted about cancers and me pointing out that there are many sex specific cancers.

The Datix reporting scheme was updated last year. In late 2023 IT asked for people to submit test cases. As you can see from my test case of an elderly man called Albert Jones (NOT a real person, no personal information used) it asked for Gender ID after asking sex. In the comments I pointed out that Albert was confused and like many people in different medical situations would be unable to tell the reporter what his gender was.

After the update I was pleased to note the question was for sex only. (Not taking personal credit for this but clearly somewhere along the line gender was ditched).

I had assumed that the Datix system was the same throughout the NHS but maybe I’m wrong. Have you submitted one at all @nothingcomestonothing? Is it different at your trust?

Ok, the current state of the list is below (minus ones that have been submitted as I’m away from the back end at the moment). There may be mistakes, so shout if you spot any!

As I’m not really able to be online much, can I impose on you lovely people for a little bit longer? Can anyone who is still up for an audit find any trusts below that haven’t been claimed and let us know on here? Thank you so much - back to your regular service soon!

Trusts in the North East and Yorkshire

[Italics = claimed]

Acute

• Airedale NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Bradford Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Calderdale & Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust - Faffertea
• County Durham & Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust - WithSilverBells
• Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Mid Yorkshire Teaching NHS Trust - teawamutu
• North Cumbria University Hospitals NHS Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Northumbria Health Care NHS Foundation Trust - FarriersGirl
• Northern Lincolnshire & Goole NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation Trust
• The Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - YellowRoom
• The Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• The Rotherham NHS Foundation Trust
• York and Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom

Ambulance

• North East Ambulance Service NHS Trust
• North West Ambulance Service NHS Trust
• Yorkshire Ambulance Service NHS Trust - YellowRoom

Community and mental health

• Bradford District Care NHS Trust - teawamutu
• Cumbria, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic
• Humber Teaching NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Leeds and York Partnership NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• Leeds Community Healthcare NHS Trust - FarriersGirl
• Rotherham Doncaster and South Humber NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• Sheffield Health and Social Care NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• South West Yorkshire Partnership NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• Tees, Esk and Wear Valleys NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic

Specialist

• Sheffield Children’s NHS Foundation Trust - thenoisiesttermagant

Hi there! Can you give me an idea of where in the country your trust is? We’ve have different forms for different areas, just to help us stay on top of things.

I'll take these two:
North East Ambulance Service NHS Trust
North West Ambulance Service NHS Trust

I've submitted York and Scarborough - more of the same.

I can do The Rotherham

Sorry, looking back through the thread, might be stepping on your toes here @MadameBethune

I can take Sheffield Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust.

@KnottyAuty Finally completed Northumbria Healthcare. Another website carefully scrubbed at some point I would say. One thing I found in one of Ermine's FOI from 2021 was a completed application for Stonewall Diversity Champions scheme. I have not seen one before and it is quite extraordinary, not least its scale, 572 pages and nearly 25MB!!!!!! I could not get it to upload due to its size, and the pdf compression software failed with it as well. I have put a link in the last comment box. I cannot imagine how many manhours it would take to complete something like this, hundreds I should think.

@TwoLoonsAndASprout I can take another trust although it will be early next week before I get to it.

If you click on that little i by 'what is the patient's sex' I will bet you good money it says something like 'legal sex as shown on official documents such as driving licence or utility bill'. I.e., it's self IDed sex,not actual sex.

See also here : https://dailysceptic.org/2025/05/13/the-nhs-no-longer-recognises-the-reality-of-biological-sex/

And the WRN report 'Incoherent and Unsafe' for pages and pages of examples of screenshots from the online systems different Trusts use. The NHS is extremely thoroughly captured and all the data is dirty at this point, both on patients' sex and staff sex.

I don't believe there is an NHS Trust which can confidently say it knows the actual sex of either its patients or its staff (and every staff transgender policy I've seen says that staff can change their work ID, staff records etc at will, and their previous data will be hidden for them by the Trust). My Trust uses ESR for staff records - I could choose a new 'gender' anytime I like, but nowhere does it record my sex. It uses Epic for patient records, which has fields for 'legal sex ' (self ID) and 'sex assigned at birth' (always blank). All the data is corrupted.

Sheffield Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust submitted

Hi. I will DM you now. Cheers

While @TwoLoonsAndASprout is without full access, I've had a quick check in the Jotform and have updated the trusts now completed. The list is still to be updated with some of the auditors... do bear with me! Thanks all for your excellent work.

Trusts in the North East and Yorkshire [Italics = claimed, strikethrough = completed]
Acute

• Airedale NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Bradford Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Calderdale & Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust - Faffertea
• County Durham & Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust - WithSilverBells
• Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Mid Yorkshire Teaching NHS Trust - teawamutu
• North Cumbria University Hospitals NHS Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Northumbria Health Care NHS Foundation Trust - FarriersGirl
• Northern Lincolnshire & Goole NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust
• Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation Trust
• The Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - YellowRoom
• The Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• The Rotherham NHS Foundation Trust
• York and Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

Ambulance

• North East Ambulance Service NHS Trust
• North West Ambulance Service NHS Trust
• Yorkshire Ambulance Service NHS Trust

Community and mental health

• Bradford District Care NHS Trust
• Cumbria, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic
• Humber Teaching NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Leeds and York Partnership NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• Leeds Community Healthcare NHS Trust - FarriersGirl
• Rotherham Doncaster and South Humber NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• Sheffield Health and Social Care NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• South West Yorkshire Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
• Tees, Esk and Wear Valleys NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic

Specialist

• Sheffield Children’s NHS Foundation Trust - thenoisiesttermagant

Thanks!
@teawamutu was this one you?

Here is one for you:
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust
Thanks!

I'll do another too pl. South Tyneside and Sunderland?

Are you still looking for one? This is available?
South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

Do I need to send you the latest Jotform link?

I'm on it!

If my calculations are correct, then I think that all the trusts are now allocated for NE England. However a few people seem to have multiples allocated and may want to offload. So I will post an update tomorrow morning and we can divvy up any last ones.

By way of an update...I'm hoping we will get the last of the London coverage in the national press on Monday. Not sure what is happening with the Midlands yet. And I am still to finish the final checks on East of England... So you are all over-taking me - I can't keep up - which is a wonderful problem to have! Thanks all xx

It was - I think I got some stuff from WDTK but I'll check and re do the form if not.

Yes I will take that and can you send the jot form please?

Sent xx

Thanks!

I think I have managed to update this list to @TwoLoonsAndASprout standards... shout if I have missed anything.

Are any of the early volunteers looking to offload any of their trusts?

Trusts in the North East and Yorkshire [Italics = claimed, strikethrough = completed]
Acute

• Airedale NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Bradford Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - teawamutu
• Calderdale & Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust - Faffertea
• County Durham & Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust - WithSilverBells
• Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - NeedMoreTinfoil
• Mid Yorkshire Teaching NHS Trust - teawamutu
• North Cumbria University Hospitals NHS Trust - ExDerryGirl
• Northumbria Health Care NHS Foundation Trust - FarriersGirl
• Northern Lincolnshire & Goole NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust - WithSilverBells
• Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - ExDerryGirl
• South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - rightsraptor
• South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation Trust - yellowroom
• The Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - YellowRoom
• The Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - FarriersGirl
• The Rotherham NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom or MadameBethune???
• York and Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom

Ambulance

• North East Ambulance Service NHS Trust - teawamutu
• North West Ambulance Service NHS Trust - teawamutu
• Yorkshire Ambulance Service NHS Trust- YellowRoom

Community and mental health

• Bradford District Care NHS Trust - teawamutu
• Cumbria, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic
• Humber Teaching NHS Foundation Trust - Cantunseeit
• Leeds and York Partnership NHS Foundation Trust - YellowRoom
• Leeds Community Healthcare NHS Trust - FarriersGirl
• Rotherham Doncaster and South Humber NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• Sheffield Health and Social Care NHS Foundation Trust - umbel
• South West Yorkshire Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
• Tees, Esk and Wear Valleys NHS Foundation Trust - Blackmetallic

Specialist

• Sheffield Children’s NHS Foundation Trust - thenoisiesttermagant

Thanks!