NHS Policy Audit - working party - thread #2

[KnottyAuty]

This is a thread about “keeping the receipts” on NHS Policies prior to the Supreme Court ruling on 16th April 2025.

Our working theory is that there were no single sex spaces for NHS Staff or Patients in the entire country before that date, having all been removed by stealth. We are aiming to prove this by auditing websites and policies for all the UK trusts and using the results to raise public awareness. As well as recording what has happened historically, the information will form a baseline so we can check which Trusts comply or defy the judgement in due course.

We are working around the country region by region. If you fancy getting involved in a bit of grassroots feminism then please do join in to help!? Each trust takes about an hour to research and you can upload online without giving any personal details away. Comment below and we can give you the link to an online survey - it changes for each region.

Thanks soooo much to all the vipers who have helped so far and @ Twoloons for doing a great job with the thread wrangling!

Here are the press articles we’ve managed to generate so far:

Scotland:
25th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/dTUhY
26th March: Scottish Daily Express
https://archive.is/kaLCB
26th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/iSD9m

London:
21st April: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/awGuz
23rd April: The Telegraph (in conjunction with another thread by NHS mumsnetters)
https://archive.is/1DO8d

Original thread #1 here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

@Rosebud21 @umbel @KnottyAuty

That NHS Confederation document for MH and LD services ("page not found") can be accessed on the Wayback Machine using the link above. I've just downloaded the document as a pdf :)

Double posted, apologies

Sorry it doesn't seem to work copying the link from Wayback machine, but it can be accessed easily on there

Some trust CEOs have posted a statement on the Supreme Court judgment on their websites - so it's worth checking for that, archiving, saving the link and making a note.

The couple of website statements I've seen by English NHS Trust CEOs tell staff nothing has change, and so they are not complying with the law. I'm told similar messages are being sent internally in other trusts. I've just seen an internal message from Universities Hospital Birmingham where management tells staff to use the correct sex toilets or a standalone unisex toilets. It sympathises with "the difficult time for many colleagues" & offers them extraordinary support sessions run by the UHBeProud Network. UHB is silent of course on those many staff who welcome the judgment (and it misspells the word for a legal judgment by adding an e.)

Good thought. We can maybe add that for the next region

I'll do Yorkshire Ambulance - I think oustanding

I've seen one of those messages about the Supreme Court judgement on a Trust website. I'll try to remember where - foggy 🧠

Just leaving this here for all you wonderful women. It's an article from Glinner's substack - I'm sure you know all this but there may be something useful as it looks at how the government pushed all this in the NHS:

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/government-helped-push-gender-identity

It was Leeds and York Partnership - I think I added it to the form https://www.leedsandyorkpft.nhs.uk/news/articles/response-to-supreme-court-ruling-equality-act/
'Our Gender Identity Services are still very much here – working hard to see and treat many people presenting with Gender Dysphoria. We are taking part in the national review referenced above, but we felt it was important to state we’re still very much open and operational. We will continue to see and treat trans people with the dignity and respect they both deserve and can expect under the current UK law.
What the Supreme Court judgement has changed is ‘how’ we protect people’s rights under the Act in future. That is something that thousands of public bodies, businesses and other organisations will be grappling with in the coming months.
In the NHS, we know that a full review of services will be required because previous guidance advised that trans patients should be accommodated according to their gender identity. NHS England is currently reviewing guidance on same sex accommodation, considering “all relevant legislation and the recent ruling”.
So, we will continue to uphold the principles of Equality Act and await further guidance from NHS England on what changes we, and the thousands of NHS service providers, will need to make.'

Mid Yorks Teaching is now done, and probably the worst yet - if only because they helpfully sent Ermine all the policies, including:

• the menopause policy that mentions trans in the first paragraph
• the 'chest' feeding policy
• the policy that advises anyone requesting care not be provided by a particular individual on the basis of prejudice (including sex) can be disregarded
• the policy that says teens should be able to use whatever shower facilities they want, regardless of genital configuration.

Fuckers.

Want me to pick up another one or two?

I've submitted Yorkshire Ambulance. Couldn't find any trans policies though they were referenced in other docs. No Ermine FOI. They were Stonewall members, and current member of National Ambulance LGBT+ network which has huge amounts of trans stuff - 'More than any other area within the LGBT+ acronym we know that lives of transgender and non-binary people are the most challenges.'

Also produced this piece of research back in 2019 by a YAS paramedic.
www.ambulancelgbt.org/media/1405/trans-research-project-kh-ag-25-mar-2019.pdf

They have a trans awareness ambulance...

I'm sure someone picked up Bradford Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust: are you aware the result of an FoI are now available on What Do They Know? I think it only popped up in the last few days.

Good grief. those are all really awful. Not sure which is the worst one, perhaps the third one.

Tbh, I imagine most of the trusts have this shit tucked away - we haven't been asking for dignity policies or whatever, have we?

Happy to take another Trust if someone would like to allocate me one

I can do York and Scarborough - don't think it's been taken

I'll take Bradford District Trust if unallocated.

I never fail to be surprised at the bat shittery. So much effort has gone into this - if only the same had been done for autistic or looked after kids or well anything really…. So many words written for situations that will mostly never occur…

Does anyone worry about going on a weekend break/holiday in these areas?
I have a variety of medical issues and it makes me fucking terrified to go anywhere, because I might well need NHS treatment, whilst away.

And yes, I've name changed, I'm a frequent poster on here, but honestly the latest refusal to follow the SC ruling is really fucking scary

To be honest, every NHS hospital has taken away your right to single sex accommodation, and I've yet to come across one who hasn't mixed your right to request single sex care into single 'gender' care in the detail of policies.

My Trust hasn't said anything on the public facing Trust website about the ruling, and patient information says we have single sex accommodation (which is a lie). But it's still in the Stonewall grifting scheme, it pays for and heavily promotes staff 'training' from a local extremist TQ+ organisation, the only stakeholders who get consulted about policies are the staff LGBTQIA+ group, there is no women's staff group, all internal comms uses activist language (people with a cervix etc) the records system doesn't record patient or staff actual sex only 'legal sex' (which is self ID) etc etc.

Frankly, assume any UK hospital is captured by gender ideology. They're not all the worst but they're all bad.

I have posted on this thread before and have documents from my Trust which I don’t think has been done yet but I can’t figure out what to do with them. Could somebody be kind enough to post a link for the survey/email address or whatever so I can submit?

Bradford District submitted. As crap as the others.

Website scrubbed almost completely clean, interestingly. Nice try lads but we've got Ermine and we're on to you 😁

Give me another if would help, I've some time this afternoon.

I can pick one up this weekend, not sure what's left now.

Bradford…Mid Yorks (which includes Dewsbury):

Clear indication that for the NHS, satisfying the requirements of the trans demographic trumps everything, including even the religion/culture requirements of the Muslim population.

Somehow didn’t expect that.

I can do one today or tomorrow too. Also not sure what is left.