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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Unison Women's Conference motion "trans women are women" as nurses battle NHS for single sex facilities

145 replies

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2025 20:47

the Unison motion, put forward by the union’s Camden branch, asserts that “trans women are women and trans men are men”.

It goes on to denounce the idea that allowing trans women to access female spaces will mean women lose rights and claims women have “a vested interest in standing alongside our trans comrades”.

Unison’s national women’s conference, to begin in Edinburgh on Thursday, is expected to pass a call to produce a “myth-busting factsheet” which would “counter the idea” that trans and women’s rights are ever in conflict.

The motion, which insiders said they believed would likely pass, states that “gender-critical groups and individuals often organise around women-only spaces and the idea that trans people having rights means that women will lose rights.”

It adds “women’s rights are not diminished by trans people having more rights” and calls for literature to be created “to counter the idea that an increase in trans rights would mean a decrease in the rights of others”.

Just extracts - full story here https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/09/trade-union-accused-betraying-women-pushing-trans-agenda/
and here https://archive.is/pG6IV

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mcduffy · 12/02/2025 19:59

I sat behind someone at the cricket with that tattooed on her neck Shock pretty permanent! At least it wasn't TWAW though Grin

HoldTheLine · 13/02/2025 09:24

NoWordForFluffy · 11/02/2025 18:49

I'm a member of this union which I believe isn't captured!

Is this the only union that isn’t captured?

NoWordForFluffy · 13/02/2025 09:32

HoldTheLine · 13/02/2025 09:24

Is this the only union that isn’t captured?

I don't know. I did find another which didn't appear to be, but I can't recall its name.

Affinity have been involved in at least one case for a GC academic, I think.

fromorbit · 13/02/2025 10:11

Affinity are great.

There is also the Free Speech Union.

Trade Union Seen is active too:
x.com/tu_seen

Greyskybluesky · 13/02/2025 17:39

I can't wait to see a copy of this re-education document, sorry I mean myth-busting document

fromorbit · 13/02/2025 19:43

The motion passed no-one spoke against.

https://x.com/DalgetySusan/status/1890113584929337577

Next few years are going to be interesting as these gender redoubts run into conflict with the shifting tide. If that motion is true how can Unison support the Labour party?

x.com

https://x.com/DalgetySusan/status/1890113584929337577

HermioneWeasley · 13/02/2025 19:47

Women need to stop funding them

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/02/2025 19:49

Special place in hell for women who prioritise man feelings over women

IwantToRetire · 13/02/2025 19:59

fromorbit · 13/02/2025 19:43

The motion passed no-one spoke against.

https://x.com/DalgetySusan/status/1890113584929337577

Next few years are going to be interesting as these gender redoubts run into conflict with the shifting tide. If that motion is true how can Unison support the Labour party?

I was going to say unbelievable - but in my heart knew it was inevitable.

Shame on the Women's Conference. Shame on the Union.

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BellissimoGecko · 13/02/2025 20:06

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/02/2025 20:51

And this is why women are having to crowd source funding and find their own legal support to fight discrimination and bullying at work because the like of Unison are staffed by liberal bros and trans maidens

Yep.

They should all hang their heads in shame.

How can they spout this shit with a straight face?

Womanofcustard · 13/02/2025 20:35

Freedom for Tooting!

Herewegoagain29 · 13/02/2025 20:38

Why are Left wing organisations so captured?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/02/2025 20:55

FFS. Women need our own union.

TennisToday · 13/02/2025 21:07

How do we communicate to UNISON that this is not what women want?

im going to leave. Is there a way to say why?

RedToothBrush · 13/02/2025 21:43

Is there any one in unison who needs an expert witness to determine sex?

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 13/02/2025 22:00

Disgraceful. Any idea how many women attended the conference, how many voted (were there any abstentions?).

TheNinny · 13/02/2025 22:11

ah shit, gonna have to leave over this

WomanWithoutNeedOfPrefix · 13/02/2025 22:52

We need to vote with our feet. I'm Unison but I won't be now. And I'll be telling them why.

Justme56 · 14/02/2025 07:48

https://x.com/mcbrideversus/status/1890151011890704447?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Looking at this thread only delegates can vote. Also interesting criteria for transgender members.

Unison Women's Conference motion "trans women are women" as nurses battle NHS for single sex facilities
fromorbit · 14/02/2025 08:36

Anyone thinking of leaving hold off a moment. We need to organise. Mass action is how unions are formed mass protest is the only way to raise issue and get change.

As the Sexist Steve North says on X "Reading lots of posts tonight saying UNISON is losing members because we’re pro-Trans rights. Well, 2024 was the single biggest year of membership growth in our history and most new members were women. "

They think they are winning. We can't let them. People are joining unions because they want better conditions not because they want women to stop existing.

I see three strategies going forward.

1 Co-ordinated mass resignation. Draw up a statement / declaration so there can be a mass resignation and there can be a press release. Reality focused people have been abandoning unions over this sexist garbage for ages. However it has been happening individually which is not the best because it is ignored.

If lots leave and all say they are going to affinity or somewhere else that might make an impact.

2 Fight back within the union. Stuff like Trade union Seen and other initiatives have sparked hope over the last few years. However nothing substantial has occurred. It maybe this can't work because it is too tough.

3 Legal action. Any legal eagles here? Can someone sue unison for sexism? A bunch of the stuff in the guide for trans members looks clearly illegal to me like on changing rooms it looks to misrepresent the equality act.
https://t.co/34b04a02uP

Could we organise a mass complaint to the EHRC? The courts know women exist brave women keep proving it.

Anyone got any other ideas?

https://www.unison.org.uk/content/uploads/2020/01/2022-Trans-workers-rights.docx

https://t.co/34b04a02uP

Grammarnut · 14/02/2025 09:16

Herewegoagain29 · 13/02/2025 20:38

Why are Left wing organisations so captured?

They have imbibed the notion that traditional ideas are right wing. So biological sex, which is a 'traditional belief' is right wing and 'spectrum of sex', 'sex is mutable' etc is left wing - so they decide that TWAW because it fits their world view. That it's bollocks doesn't come into it.

Hollybollyhughes · 14/02/2025 09:16

This is unbelievable and womens rights are threatened, so to state this is unbelievable.
I hope Nurse P wins her case and the right to use a womens only space is always respected. Trans are trans, end of.

Grammarnut · 14/02/2025 09:17

Hollybollyhughes · 14/02/2025 09:16

This is unbelievable and womens rights are threatened, so to state this is unbelievable.
I hope Nurse P wins her case and the right to use a womens only space is always respected. Trans are trans, end of.

Indeed. Saw a picture of Dr Upton the other day along with one of Ms Peggie. One looked like it had been airbrushed - or someone has spent money on bone shaving and a nose job.

TheRedCyclist · 14/02/2025 11:24

I joined NUPE in 1973, I've stood on numerous picket lines, including 1979. I'm now a retired member.

Now UNISON is betraying women - this is why I paid my union subs for forty years?

Hollybollyhughes · 14/02/2025 14:42

I'm a retired member of Unison. It's a betrayal of women's rights, simple as that. Where was the opposition too? Why is there so much emphasis on trans rights when women don't have equality. Agree with your comment.