Employment Tribunal Case to Protect Single-Sex Facilities at Work

[FayeRC]

Dear Mumsnet Members,

I have issued an employment tribunal complaint against NHS England to protect single-sex facilities at work.

A preliminary hearing will be held in early October 2024. I would be very grateful for some urgent gardening support at CrowdJustice. I won't add a link here as it is against Mumsnet rules.

It would be interesting to hear other people's views on legislation around single-sex facilities at WORK. However, I won't be commenting much on this public forum whilst the case is on-going.

Yours faithfully,
Faye Russell-Caldicott / FayeRC

We share an employer. Did you know our HR went to the "festival of work" a few weeks ago? There is a thread on it somewhere on here. I had an HR bod ask me last week "are you one of those JK Rowling people"

What did you say?!

Half way home I’d have thought of saying something like - no idea about JKR. It I’m with the majority of the UK population polled on YouGov?!

It’s this thread about the CIPD festival of work

SEEN in HR tweeted about it

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5363456-i-regret-to-inform-you-that-the-cipd-are-at-it-again?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

@GoogleWhacking well I'm intrigued now, what was your sin in their eyes?

I said I'd had to rearrange some books so that no one could take offence at anything.

Just out of interest, how much are your legal fees costing you? I am going through similar and not sure how I’ll afford legal costs for a tribunal if my home insurance doesn’t cover the fees.

“Festival of work”, what a stupid name.

Can you apply to thr JKRowling fund?

@657904I It can be really costly and you need to think about the times when urgent work is needed, have you got funds then, not just the main bulks of work? The JKR fund requires a case is on-going.

I paid for ET1 and ET3 myself before the crowdfunder was set up. Even during the crowdfunder, I’ve kept the case going with smaller urgent payments, like Schedule of Loss, out of my own pocket. My own spending has been over £5k which I'll never get back. Legal costs cannot be claimed as damages in employment tribunals.

Crowdfunding (at 18k now) mainly supported two preliminary hearings, one cancelled, amending grounds of claim, disability impact statement and additional request for information which were all big chunks of work. The approaching exchange of evidence and subsequent reviewing it will be a big piece of work which I cannot pay myself, so I'm campaigning the hell out of this.

There is the option of self-representing. There are some very good books on how to do it, inc by naomi cunningham.

Sorry if wrong thread - but is there any update on the Sandie Peggie case after the Supreme Court ruling??

There hasn't been a settlement or anything. Here's a thread on that case.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5335861-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-26?page=15&reply=145098386

Thank you

@PeonyPatch - in a nutshell, part 2 of the Sandie Peggie tribunal is due to start soon.

The crowdfunder is ticking along nicely although some more is needed, but thank you for all those who have supported and shared. I haven't got an exact quote yet for the costs related to the next phase as the costs will partially depend on how much material we'll end up having (i.e. how large the case will be) so I'm not sure how much short we are. I'm currently undertaking the onerous task of thinking back nearly three years when this started in 2022 and hoping that I haven't forgotten an email or anything.

Also following the Fife case with interest and enjoying the roasted bbq smell lingering around after Naomi's cross.

Faye, I hope you get an uptick in donations, because 'it was decided' that as a gesture of appreciation to the valiant MNer who has been organising the 40-something threads that we've filled up with commentary on the Sandie Peggie tribunal, that we'd donate to your Crowdjustice page. She puts your details at the top of every SP tribunal page.

We've done this kind of thing before - we donated to Sex Matters - of which Naomi Cunningham is Chair, and we donated to the charity that the Peggie family asked for donations to in memory of Sandie's father RIP.

So if you see more donations all of a sudden, it's us!
Every good wish with your case Faye.

Here's a link to the current SP tribunal page.
NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #43 | Mumsnet

@MarieDeGournay @Nauticant oooh thank you! I was wondering where the new flow to the crowdfunder was coming from but first thought it was from X as I do more campaigning there. I've just looked at the comments and most are from MN now. Just wanted to say a huge thank you.

That's great! I'll copy your post to the current, umpteenth Sandie Peggie tribunal thread.
Wishing you all the best, Faye.

Thanks for the link from the Sandie Peggie thread.
I've donated to your case Faye and am so grateful to you and other women taking on these fights. It's tough going but you're doing it for all of us!

I'm waiting on payday arriving and then I'll be donating, I'm just sorry I can't donate more because I really think this case is extremely important. I hope you'll accept my emotional support until I can financially contribute a little bit more.

'This isn't Working' (HR podcast) very interesting episode on the Festival of Work- in case you've missed this!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4SD9SUvJA9wRgLZazOJbrS?si=4xIaczviTSe3PTm8_GwyiA

How Did We End Up With A Case Like Sandie Peggie? (Ft. Heeral Gudka)
same or similar on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/live/OVCUaTyd_1w

Yes. That's it. On youtube or Spotify (or other podcast platforms)

I listened on podbean and I've listened to a few others, absolutely fascinating even though I don't work in HR (maybe because I don't work in HR)
https://www.podbean.com/ea/pb-ykvzs-19236c0

Really dont understand how these organisations get away with wasting taxpayers money like this. I know NHS England is being abolished but why isnt Wes making it clear that anyone involved in defending this will be out of a job?

As a country girl, I think September is the time that the soil is tilled and new seeds are planted. The rain we've been having really helps the seeds to grow. And the sun too, of course.