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In what might just be the most insane story of the year - Two female OnlyFans models have gone viral after pretending to be transgender to sell porn content. Trans activists are now accusing the women of "appropriation" for identifying as men

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lechiffre55 · 01/09/2024 18:34

In what might just be the most insane story of the year - Two female OnlyFans models have gone viral after pretending to be transgender to sell porn content. Trans activists are now accusing the women of "appropriation" for identifying as men who identify as women.
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Helleofabore · 02/09/2024 07:44

Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2024 21:37

For an extra head fuck@Suffrajester has noted its also showing what transwomen think of transmen!

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She is spot on!

But what do these male people who are angry crying think of other male people who wear fake breasts and wigs and fake hips and thighs?

These male people are showing with every interaction how deeply their own hatred of transgender people goes.

InvisibleBuffy · 02/09/2024 07:55

TERFtown · 02/09/2024 00:39

In all serious, I hope the girls are okay? I can't imagine they bought they'd get this kind of backlash?

Me too. This is pure male rage directed at them. That screenshot upthread wishing violence on them was unhinged.
Even if they are physically safe, all those threats must take their toll psychologically.
I hope the girls are taking a break from social media.
I don't know enough about the situation, but I hope their locations and names are still secure, and they have someone close they can trust while they ride out the media storm.
We've seen how angry these men get and that they have no boundaries. I hope they stay safe.

steadywinner · 02/09/2024 07:56

I saw this the other day, it's the best thing I've seen on the internet for a long time.

All the comments from TRAs about "appropriating gender" 😂😂😂

lemonpepperlady · 02/09/2024 07:59

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RedToothBrush · 02/09/2024 08:04

Surely trans-transwomen are the most oppressed in society and more marginalised than transwomen? Look at the hate they are getting. Those bigoted transwomen should educate themselves about the oppression that trans-transwomen get.

Bearsinmotion · 02/09/2024 08:05

I am so confused. Are they actually pretending to be trans women? Or are they trans men? They refer to themselves as “dudes” and “boys” so are they not men assigned female at birth? Isn’t that how it should work?

Bannedontherun · 02/09/2024 08:10

@Bearsinmotion I do believe that they are trans men assigned female at birth who want to transition to women.

steadywinner · 02/09/2024 08:17

Bannedontherun · 02/09/2024 08:10

@Bearsinmotion I do believe that they are trans men assigned female at birth who want to transition to women.

They're not. They're actual girls, pretending to be trans women.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2024 08:19

Just a question

How many of you are familiar with only fans content? Would you share it? How did this go viral? How did it get picked up by a bunch of transwomen who then had a tantrum about it?

It sounds a lot to me as if the tantrum is also due to consumption of porn consistent with sex not gender. It sounds like the behaviour patterns were as such here to mean women found out about it last only after it had gone viral in communities of transwomen which are separate from communities of actual women.

It's almost as if transwomen are not the same as women. Which is the same argument that trans-transwomen aren't the same as transwomen. So why do we have to chant transwomen are women in monotone!?

Bannedontherun · 02/09/2024 08:20

@steadywinner err a joke.

Alucard55 · 02/09/2024 08:22

Bearsinmotion · 02/09/2024 08:05

I am so confused. Are they actually pretending to be trans women? Or are they trans men? They refer to themselves as “dudes” and “boys” so are they not men assigned female at birth? Isn’t that how it should work?

I think the accurate description is that they are women pretending to be men.

lcakethereforeIam · 02/09/2024 08:45

Wasn't there a woman (now a TiF for clarity) on one of the drag races who dressed up as a (I've seen pictures 😳) frankly nauseating drag queen with her bloody breasts in a bag and fake arms sawing at her mastectomy scars? I think people would have assumed she was actually a born male, so I think it's a similar situation a woman acting as a man acting as a woman. But no outcry except from boring old women (the ofck) who were horrified by the concept.

Same scenario as these two. I think the sex, the porn is too on the nose. They're saying the quiet part out loud but the tw can't attack them for that because swerfs are nearly as awful as terfs.

I know logical consistency or just logic fatally undermines the who gender ideology movement but thought I'd flag this one.

Igmum · 02/09/2024 08:54

Oh the irony 😂😂😂

Bearsinmotion · 02/09/2024 08:56

Alucard55 · 02/09/2024 08:22

I think the accurate description is that they are women pretending to be men.

Well, yes. But are they actually identifying as men, as in trans men, or are they pretending to be men who identify as women?

I appreciate it’s not important in the grand scheme of things 😁. It’s just that I can’t see them claiming to be women at all, and if trans women are women and they say that they are men, that makes them trans men not trans women surely?!

Bearsinmotion · 02/09/2024 08:57

It’s almost like the whole movement has convoluted language so much nothing is clear any more…

Doable · 02/09/2024 08:58

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2024 08:19

Just a question

How many of you are familiar with only fans content? Would you share it? How did this go viral? How did it get picked up by a bunch of transwomen who then had a tantrum about it?

It sounds a lot to me as if the tantrum is also due to consumption of porn consistent with sex not gender. It sounds like the behaviour patterns were as such here to mean women found out about it last only after it had gone viral in communities of transwomen which are separate from communities of actual women.

It's almost as if transwomen are not the same as women. Which is the same argument that trans-transwomen aren't the same as transwomen. So why do we have to chant transwomen are women in monotone!?

I know nothing of Only Fans but the name and its kinda Instagram but a porn thing maybe? (but I don't really know Instagram).

So are you saying that OF is mainly used by people assigned male at birth (whether men, women or other) to view content created by people assigned female at birth and/or identifying as women?

Slothtoes · 02/09/2024 09:03

How could anyone be cross with these two trans ladies for making a honest living for themselves? Why can’t they just live their authentic lives free from shame? Whatever happened to ‘acceptance without exception’ …?

Alucard55 · 02/09/2024 09:21

Bearsinmotion · 02/09/2024 08:56

Well, yes. But are they actually identifying as men, as in trans men, or are they pretending to be men who identify as women?

I appreciate it’s not important in the grand scheme of things 😁. It’s just that I can’t see them claiming to be women at all, and if trans women are women and they say that they are men, that makes them trans men not trans women surely?!

Yes. I think I follow that (had to read it a few times🥴). If gender identity is something you feel inside regardless of chromosomes, appearance etc. then these 2 individuals could, by TRA arguments actually be males who are trapped in the wrong body and are now liberated by identify as women and are being their true authentic selves?

I think it's great that we can have deep philosophical conversations about this.

00BonneMaman00 · 02/09/2024 09:24

🤣🤣🤣

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/09/2024 09:25

So are you saying that OF is mainly used by people assigned male at birth

No one is "assigned male at birth". There are male people and there are female people and their sex is observed by health care staff present at the birth, and recorded. Very very occasionally a mistake is made, but that doesn't mean that people are "assigned" their sex at birth.

Alucard55 · 02/09/2024 09:26

I think this is just further evidence that some men hate women very much.

Motnight · 02/09/2024 09:29

Slothtoes · 02/09/2024 09:03

How could anyone be cross with these two trans ladies for making a honest living for themselves? Why can’t they just live their authentic lives free from shame? Whatever happened to ‘acceptance without exception’ …?

Yeah, haterz gotta hate 🤣🤣

DancingTurtle · 02/09/2024 09:38

I know this reveals my naivety but I’m surprised that there’s so much porn for men who find men dressed as women (but who still clearly have a penis) a sexual turn on.

i feel so sorry for the youngsters caught up in this world who have been convinced to believe they’re in the wrong body. They’re undergoing terrible surgeries as part of some men’s fetish.

EasySkankin · 02/09/2024 09:44

I find it amusing that they are calling themselves ‘boys’, stuffing their underwear and then jiggling their fake opposite sex parts in a completely unnecessary and redundant fashion. 🤣 It mirrors the demeaning and offensive portrayal of women so well. It’s genius!

Christinapple · 02/09/2024 09:58

But I thought people "could always tell"?