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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Trans Activists have infiltrated the NHS'

47 replies

lcakethereforeIam · 22/06/2024 15:21

Article in the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/22/trans-activists-have-infiltrated-the-nhs/

https://archive.ph/Is1zs paywall dodge

In the headline 'infiltrated' is correctly in quotation marks. I agree that it's not the right word because it implies a degree of stealth which has been conspicuously lacking. They're very open about their intentions.

Trans activists have ‘infiltrated’ the NHS

Lobbying group TransActual ‘campaigns for cervical screening, but want men in with women when it suits them’, say sources

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/22/trans-activists-have-infiltrated-the-nhs

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LauraNorda · 22/06/2024 15:27

Not related to the article but I take great pleasure in throwing away any rainbow lanyards, pride / lbgt flyers and any other related items when I am cleaning in my hospital.

lcakethereforeIam · 22/06/2024 15:55

I found another article about NHS Scotland, if anyone thinks it deserves its own thread, please feel free

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/doctors-defy-chief-and-urge-scotland-to-follow-cass-review-s0c7cs9v6

https://archive.ph/1LOkT ditto

Trina Budge not even mincing her words never mind wheeshting

“It is time for Sir Gregor to finally grow a backbone, stand up to the ideologues and do the right thing for children across Scotland.”

Top doctor challenged over transgender care

Sir Gregor Smith, the chief medical officer, has said the findings of the Cass Review in England need further scrutiny before any changes are made in Scotland

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/doctors-defy-chief-and-urge-scotland-to-follow-cass-review-s0c7cs9v6

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MarieDeGournay · 22/06/2024 16:16

LauraNorda · 22/06/2024 15:27

Not related to the article but I take great pleasure in throwing away any rainbow lanyards, pride / lbgt flyers and any other related items when I am cleaning in my hospital.

Look who came over to Dublin to be the keynote speaker at a LBGTQI+ Healthcare Conference [sic - still including 'intersex, and what a gulf exists between LGB healthcare and T healthcare!]:
Dr Mike Farquhar, 'lead developer of the NHS Rainbow Badge project'.

So now that it's at last being challenged in your NHS, our equivalent, the HSE, are metaphorically picking up the pieces you've thrown away LauraNorda😠

LGBTQI+ healthcare conference highlights failure in caring for core issues (dublingazette.com)

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2024 16:59

Infiltrated?? Nope they’re front & centre! The NHS is one of the worst offenders imo because the nhs of all organisations should know what difference biological sex makes to illness/injury & treatment

Datun · 22/06/2024 17:08

The group’s other co-director, Jane Fae, a transgender woman, is also a supporter of the Consenting Adult Action Network, which campaigns to decriminalise the possession of “extreme pornography”.

Insiders said it was “extremely sinister” that these people were lobbying for children to medically transition and against women-only spaces.

Finally. The quiet bits start to get an airing.

Extreme online pornography could be banned, says Tory peer

Baroness Bertin says she is concerned that adults and children are legally able to view ‘very harmful’ pornographic material online

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/12/extreme-online-pornography-could-be-banned-tory-peer/

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 17:48

From an outsiders point of view the trans movement have taken the playbook feminists have a used against men and recycled most of the same ideas.

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:03

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 17:48

From an outsiders point of view the trans movement have taken the playbook feminists have a used against men and recycled most of the same ideas.

Oh yes, all those TRAs campaigning for equal pay and an end to violence against women and girls.

Oh no, wait, they want to shutdown women only rape refuges and legalise extreme pornography.

I wouldn't have thought mixing those two things up was quite such an easy mistake to make.

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:10

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:03

Oh yes, all those TRAs campaigning for equal pay and an end to violence against women and girls.

Oh no, wait, they want to shutdown women only rape refuges and legalise extreme pornography.

I wouldn't have thought mixing those two things up was quite such an easy mistake to make.

Edited

I didn’t say the ends / goals were the same, I clearly said the methods.

Outwiththenorm · 22/06/2024 18:14

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:10

I didn’t say the ends / goals were the same, I clearly said the methods.

Please do expand. 🙄

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:19

Outwiththenorm · 22/06/2024 18:14

Please do expand. 🙄

No woman can comment on trans issues without being transphobic - men can’t comment on an issue feminists deem a female one without being misogynistic.

Attacking and threatening to boycott big companies that don’t wave their flag.

Aggressively trying to cancel anyone has a different opinion?

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:23

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:19

No woman can comment on trans issues without being transphobic - men can’t comment on an issue feminists deem a female one without being misogynistic.

Attacking and threatening to boycott big companies that don’t wave their flag.

Aggressively trying to cancel anyone has a different opinion?

If you can't comment on women without being misogynistic, that's on you, not them!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:25

men can’t comment on an issue feminists deem a female one without being misogynistic.

so chappy said something sexist and got pulled up on it and it made him feel bed

this leads him to conclude that all women deserve everything that’s coming to them

sometimes the username a person chooses allows you to form a very clear picture of their personality

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:26

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:23

If you can't comment on women without being misogynistic, that's on you, not them!

Nope, it’s on the feminist ideology who will use the misogynistic card in the same way transom movement use transphobia as like a means to shut down any / all discussion.

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:27

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:25

men can’t comment on an issue feminists deem a female one without being misogynistic.

so chappy said something sexist and got pulled up on it and it made him feel bed

this leads him to conclude that all women deserve everything that’s coming to them

sometimes the username a person chooses allows you to form a very clear picture of their personality

If You can’t see the parallels between this and the trans movement it’s pretty ironic.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:30

Can one froth while simultaneously being laid back I wonder?

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:32

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:30

Can one froth while simultaneously being laid back I wonder?

Im not sure where you’re seeing froth, I’m
just appreciative of the irony.

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:33

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:30

Can one froth while simultaneously being laid back I wonder?

It doesn't look like it!

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:35

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:33

It doesn't look like it!

It’s a shame you have nothing but insults? Why not explain why my view is wrong?

GruntledGoblin · 22/06/2024 18:38

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 17:48

From an outsiders point of view the trans movement have taken the playbook feminists have a used against men and recycled most of the same ideas.

At least have enough self-respect to inform yourself of how exactly the TRA movement did effect such corporate capture and blind acquiescence to their ideology before making any further inane and inflammatory comments. Jeez. 🙄

Laidbackguy · 22/06/2024 18:39

GruntledGoblin · 22/06/2024 18:38

At least have enough self-respect to inform yourself of how exactly the TRA movement did effect such corporate capture and blind acquiescence to their ideology before making any further inane and inflammatory comments. Jeez. 🙄

In pretty much exactly the same way as feminists did?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:40

Anyhoo

thank you for posting the article. It’s excellent to see Fae’s advocacy for the availability of images of extreme sexual violence being highlighted

(I know we’re all different but jeez, what a thing to decide to devote your energy to)

Datun · 22/06/2024 18:41

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/06/2024 18:40

Anyhoo

thank you for posting the article. It’s excellent to see Fae’s advocacy for the availability of images of extreme sexual violence being highlighted

(I know we’re all different but jeez, what a thing to decide to devote your energy to)

And for lowering the age of participants. Ugh.

Laidbackguy · 24/06/2024 19:56

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/06/2024 14:44

I would disagree with your assessment because the 'old boys network' has been helpful to the objectives of the trans campaign in a way it never has to women:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists/

Who do you think created all the positive discrimination if it wasn’t the old boys network?

I work in engineering, 95% of engineering graduates are male. Most blue chip companies have quotas to employ 50% female engineers by X. There weren’t any women there in the first place. It’s just managers being scared share holders will get upset if they’re not seen to be tipping their hat to diversity - even if that is detrimental to the quality of hires.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 24/06/2024 20:34

I think this laid back guy is telling us that feminists have captured the corporate world

after the secret feminist takeover this one is not to be included in the breeding farm. we don't need more of this in the gene pool