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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS workers ‘filmed having sex at children’s hospital’

222 replies

Imnobody4 · 22/03/2024 19:31

I suppose this is bringing your whole self to work.

Defending his lifestyle, the OnlyFans user posted last month: “I will not be made to feel any different just because I record my sex.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bfc9a121-b58c-4555-bb03-1925ad0defa3?shareToken=e2a30f39b65b46398285cd599dd7f81a

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 08:56

RedHelenB · 23/03/2024 08:46

Not defending it no, but from the first comments I thought it was in the public part of a hospital. Obviously it shouldn't happen but it's naive to think it never does. And there's no way it's putting children at risk of harm which is what the premise of this post is.

How do you know there's no way it's putting children at risk?

SamuelDJackson · 23/03/2024 08:58

A natural consequence of the whole ' Bring yourself to work' campaign?
Loss of boundaries and professionalism, and an attitude of entitlement that the problem is not your actions but the exposure and discussion of them

Dont have high hopes of an investigation by NHSGGC

YesThis · 23/03/2024 08:59

I suppose this is bringing your whole self to work

That made me laugh out loud!

Bringing your whole self to work is such nonsense. We all have to bring edited versions of ourselves to work, and to most social interactions, that’s how professionalism works. That’s how getting along with other people works.

i mean, that Tory donor bloke brought his whole racist, misogynist self to work recently, and look how that worked out for him.

RedHelenB · 23/03/2024 09:00

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 08:56

How do you know there's no way it's putting children at risk?

Because the report said it happened in the staff part of the hospital not the wards. How would the children know anything about it?

Faffertea · 23/03/2024 09:03

From reading what one of the men involved has posted he doesn’t seem to be disputing this happened- just that people are sharing it.

And yes, the junior doctor should be reported to the GMC. This breaches so much of Good Medical Practice, bringing the profession into disrepute for a start.

I’ve worked in a fair few hospitals and know an awful lot of doctors. Never heard of anyone shagging in the changing room.

ResisterRex · 23/03/2024 09:04

Bat signal seems to have gone out on this thread. Always telling.

TheClogLady · 23/03/2024 09:04

MintDreamer · 23/03/2024 07:13

Does anyone remember the NSPCC latex wanker? He made amateur porn in the toilets, tagging the charity. Owen Jones said critics were homophobic.

Edited

In the RubberWankMan’s defence, he only filmed himself masturbating at work and having sex in a hotel room on a work trip. IIRC the sites he uploaded to were niche interest/free to access (hobbiest fetish porn?)

Having sex with a work colleague whilst at work and selling footage to anyone interested is an escalation!

And RubberWankMan did at least try and keep two social media profiles, one SFW, one NSFW (he made the mistake of linking to a blog from his normie linked in, that blog then began a trail to the sex stuff) whereas the chap in the OP seems to have been promoting his OnlyFans on a general FB account with colleagues on his friend list? And that’s how come the changing room was recognised?

it’s really not that difficult to just not wank in the work toilets or shag in the changing rooms, lads.

At this rate HR departments everywhere are going to have to start writing clear ‘no sex on the premises’ clauses into contracts.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:08

In the RubberWankMan’s defence

There's a sentence I never thought I'd read on Mumsnet.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:09

RedHelenB · 23/03/2024 09:00

Because the report said it happened in the staff part of the hospital not the wards. How would the children know anything about it?

Because he uploaded it to OnlyFans, and it has been widely shared, and is now in the papers/on the internet?

How do you think families will feel about this?

TheClogLady · 23/03/2024 09:11

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:08

In the RubberWankMan’s defence

There's a sentence I never thought I'd read on Mumsnet.

Believe me, I never thought I’d write it!

I still have a saved PDF of the deleted MN thread where we followed the trail of sex breadcrumbs in real time

Froodwithatowel · 23/03/2024 09:12

The wobbly boundaries of some remind me of that conversation in Yes Prime Minister.

I mean: sex in a changing room. Yes. No problem.
Would you mind about sex in a cupboard near a ward? Well yes. No children present.
How about in a quiet corridor?
How about in a ward behind a curtain?
I mean, where does 'this is now too inappropriate' happen? At the point they hand out pop corn and sit the children in chairs to watch? Ask a passing Mum if she's got any big kleenex?

Fgs when did so many adults lose their minds in this country?

RedHelenB · 23/03/2024 09:18

As I said, if it hadn't have been sensationalised by the media no one would be any the wiser, I wouldn't because I don't frequent Only Fans and no children should.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/03/2024 09:18

‘Because the report said it happened in the staff part of the hospital not the wards. ‘

He/they were using their work premises for personal gain. That was against any contract of employment I ever signed. Of course, what most of those meant was ‘don’t use the photocopier for your party invites’ or ‘ no, you can’t send your ebay parcels through the post room’, not ‘you can’t use our changing rooms to make commercial pornography ’ , but the principle is the same.

lady69 · 23/03/2024 09:20

Things one doesn't do at work: This shit. Because it’s work not a sex dungeon. Absolute degenerates.

GenericMNwoman · 23/03/2024 09:20

“From reading what one of the men involved has posted he doesn’t seem to be disputing this happened- just that people are sharing it.”

Thats the main thing isn’t it. It’s not that they did something wrong and made it publicly available, it’s that people are looking at it. How dare you report on the the thing that I made publicly known!!

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:21

It is true that most staff guidelines don't explicitly tell staff not to make hardcore porn on work premises. So I guess that's an HR failing, then. Everyone's doing it, you say? And so long as it's not reported on it's all ticketyboo. I see.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:22

'the worst thing about male violence male sex offences is that they make men look bad'

Which law of misogyny is this?

oOiluvfriendsOo · 23/03/2024 09:22

sleepyscientist · 23/03/2024 08:55

@crumpet but how does dismissal benefit the public when it occurred in a private space. You could go down the public image route and have the junior doctor's GMC number but who benefits? I think an investigation into both of their conduct in practice is needed if nothing is found then that's the end of it. Would it be different if porn of the two of them had been filmed elsewhere?

The world is changing, peoples opinions are largely changing (even if yours aren't) the pure number on onlyfans, social media etc shows this.

Yea I wouldn't do it, but I'm also not offended by other people doing it

It's not a private space though. It is a space used by all ward staff, sometimes more than 1 ward. We have 2 staff changing areas for 15 wards.
It is also a space where domestic staff have to go clean.
So it is far from private.
It also breaks the NHS Code of Conduct by which they are to adhere to.

RainSodOff · 23/03/2024 09:23

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:09

Because he uploaded it to OnlyFans, and it has been widely shared, and is now in the papers/on the internet?

How do you think families will feel about this?

As a mother of a baby under this hospitals care. I feel sick, stressed and not sure I want to trust them with my baby's care again, but given the fact we need to go here despite it being a 2.5 hr journey as our local hospital doesn't have the specialists.

Now I'm illogically thinking every time doctors were late for a clinic appt, or on ward rounds is that because they were off to make a quick porn video?
Oh sorry its all OK.. they filmed it in the staff rooms, alls fine.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:24

I'm sorry, Rain. If it helps, commentary from HCPs on social media is roundly condemning this. Most staff are just as horrified as we are. Wishing you and your baby well. x

RainSodOff · 23/03/2024 09:24

That was hopefully not an incoherent ramble, and hope I've not upset any of his supporters for being 'judgy' of his awesome true self bringing....

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2024 09:26

oOiluvfriendsOo · 23/03/2024 09:22

It's not a private space though. It is a space used by all ward staff, sometimes more than 1 ward. We have 2 staff changing areas for 15 wards.
It is also a space where domestic staff have to go clean.
So it is far from private.
It also breaks the NHS Code of Conduct by which they are to adhere to.

The world is changing, peoples opinions are largely changing (even if yours aren't) the pure number on onlyfans, social media etc shows this.

If we are now at the point where making porn in a children's hospital is defended as progressive, we are in a very, very dangerous place.

RainSodOff · 23/03/2024 09:26

Thanks @ArabellaScott I'm just appalled but not surprised there's the 'team yeah but' apologists here.

OneMoreTime23 · 23/03/2024 09:26

crumpet · 23/03/2024 08:48

What’s the proportion of male/females who have done this in your organisation? (I can guess who it mostly is…)

Apart from one of the cases, I’ve already indicated their sexes. (Case 3 was a male.)

PracticallyPerfectedIt · 23/03/2024 09:26

sleepyscientist · 23/03/2024 08:55

@crumpet but how does dismissal benefit the public when it occurred in a private space. You could go down the public image route and have the junior doctor's GMC number but who benefits? I think an investigation into both of their conduct in practice is needed if nothing is found then that's the end of it. Would it be different if porn of the two of them had been filmed elsewhere?

The world is changing, peoples opinions are largely changing (even if yours aren't) the pure number on onlyfans, social media etc shows this.

Yea I wouldn't do it, but I'm also not offended by other people doing it

A private space? A workplace, and hospital, are not a private space, no matter what area. That would his home, or a hotel room.

If you're not offended by this, (and his narcissistic response) your standards are in the gutter.

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