NHS workers ‘filmed having sex at children’s hospital’

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I suppose this is bringing your whole self to work.

Defending his lifestyle, the OnlyFans user posted last month: “I will not be made to feel any different just because I record my sex.”

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I'd be thinking 'here is an employee, working in a position of trust with children, who apparently has very limited self awareness, very poor judgement, very poor boundaries and sense of appropriacy, issues around sex and exhibitionism that appear to be coming to work with them, and very little respect for themselves or others. And this is a major problem, because someone with these personal problems should not be in such a role.'

This.

For crying out loud. Are we really at the point where unless a sick child actually sees their HCP filming themself shagging a colleague, then it's fine? How about we just give them earplugs and an eye mask?

If you're in work, and you can't keep it in your pants long enough to get home, then there's something wrong with you.

Either the illicit surroundings are turning you on, or you have zero boundaries. You almost certainly need to watch less porn. If the concept of making porn in a children's hospital is driving any of your decisions, leave and get therapy.

It's not normal, it is a safeguarding risk, and they should be fired.

Sex at work is unprofessional in my view, but it's not illegal to have sex in a building which happens to contain children-if it were, how many parents would ever go on to have a second or subsequent child?

Also, either that's the changing room in the hospital, or it isn't. The investigation should take about 10 seconds.

Seriously? Fuck me.

You're actually comparing your own house, containing one or two children of your own with a children's hospital, that contain the sick and dying children of other people, that it is your job to look after??

And it's not 'having sex'. It's making and uploading porn.

Are we really at the point where unless a sick child actually sees their HCP filming themself shagging a colleague, then it's fine? How about we just give them earplugs and an eye mask?

No, of course we aren’t. I have only seen one post so far saying they wouldn’t be offended by this.

What people have been debating is whether sacking somebody on patient safety grounds would stick at an employment tribunal, and the likelihood is that it wouldn’t, because it was in a private area well away from patients. You could absolutely sack them for gross misconduct and bringing the organisation into disrepute though, and pretty much everyone on here has agreed that this is what should happen, with a side order of GMC referral for bringing the profession into disrepute.

If you are so unable to brook any disagreement that you feel the need to twist that position into “you support this! You want all HCPs to make porn in front of babies!!!1!!!”, frankly you are the one with the problem.

I don’t know why everyone is surprised, I mean Matt Hancock was caught on camera in Parliament, why would you think it’s different anywhere else. It’s been going on forever, I think the difference is that there are more cameras now!

You don’t think this refers to the allegations?

I don’t think revenge porn laws apply to professional porn content (only ‘private images’) but am happy to be corrected, especially if Scottish law differs to English in that regard. Sharing pro content would be copyright/deprivation of income/civil law - nowt to do with cops.

The most logical reason for the shares around the workforce is that the location is the workplace, and everyone is seeking confirmation of recognition of the location and making reports to bosses.
The vast majority of hospital staff are not going to risk their professional standing over gossip about (or getting off over) gay porn, they are gonna file a safeguarding report and make the higher ups deal with it.

When the higher ups fail to act, that’s generally when the press get tipped off.

Absolutely, @TheClogLady he's admitted he's done it, but in a spectacularly narcissistic way! All about him and his upset!

Sex between doctors in hospitals has always happened - not saying its necessarily right or wrong, but its not new.
This is different though, he's essentially running a porn business and gaining financially from it whilst he's at work. He shouldn't be putting the hospitals reputation and professionalism at question whilst there are parents in desperate situations thinking that they can trust the staff and hospital, this isn't good for that.
He absolutely shouldn't be putting it online.

It interesting that some people think there's literally no value in self control, boundaries and understanding what is appropriate behaviour and where for their own sake. The only problem is with getting caught.

Hang on. Am I reading this correctly? He filmed himself having sex in the place he works, and it was clearly visible as the place he works. He posted this video on his own Only Fans page and offered it up for sale and received funds for it when people downloaded it. But he's now whining because some people that have paid for it and downloaded it have sent it to other people that work in the same workplace.

So basically he's whining that people are now sharing the clip without paying for it? Incredible.

I've long said that Only Fans, Adult works, UK Punters and the like are a sign of the last days of Western Civilization. Who would pay for some grainy footage of some admin guy crammed into a changing cubicle with some other sweaty person. There are professionally edited porn videos out there if you're after that kind of thing, much of it for free. Also, doesn't OF content have some sort of watermarking to prevent this?

Anyway, bleurghh!! I hope he gets let go. NHS admin workers should be concentrating on not losing people's medical records and helping the children through their stay, not doing this kind of sad shit.

Sex between doctors in hospitals has always happened - not saying its necessarily right or wrong, but its not new.

It's wrong.

Aside from being disgusting this potentially could also be a patient safety concern if these so called doctors are supposed to be observing and treating sick kids and instead they are spending time making porn films.

Well, there goes practically every episode of Grey's Anatomy.

On shift? On premises?

If the answer to either of those is yes then it’s wrong.

HR really need to hurry up with the no-shagging-on-shift clauses if this is commonplace.

Grey's Anatomy has many, many problems. The insane hairdresser who captures every woman working in the place in the carpark and gives them all identical haircuts for just one.

Yes, I had no idea people needed this spelled out to them.

Shagging at work is not okay.

I'll be adding this to our staff handbook next week.

I do not know 'Greys Anatomy', is it part of NICE guidance?

Citing an American soap as evidence that hcps are OK to make porn films in a children's hospital is a bit odd isn't it?

Absolutely this. This is what I keep coming back to. Even leaving aside the fact they were making porn and the fact they were in a children’s hospital- do some people really not have enough self control to refrain from sex at work? Most adults know what it’s like to feel amorous. We know what a rush of lust feels like. If you happen to be at work when it strikes (or on a bus or in a shop etc) the normal thing to do would be to distract yourself from it and just get on with what you’re doing. I find it disturbing that there are people around with such poor self control (and/or poor boundaries) that they think they simply have to get their rocks off there and then.

“Things one doesn't do at work: This shit. Because it’s work not a sex dungeon. Absolute degenerates.” lady69

This! This is where the ethic of fay çe que vouldras has lead us to. The world is effectively a sex dungeon now 🤢 Boundaries, safeguarding and Chesterton’s fences serve an essential social function that we remove at our peril. The social coherency of basic trust and decency undermined, and pushed further into the flames of depravity, cheered on by the “each to their own” lot.

And ER, House, Scrubs etc.

Is Casualty safe? Surely Doogie Howser was underage?

Tbf they might have been off shift but still, it's grim to film your OF at your other work place. OF is just a repulsive trash site anyway, encouraging random saddos to think they're porn stars and degrade themselves for small amounts of cash they domt (yet) pay tax on. And the men that spend their, and possibly their families, earned income paying for someone to piss on a doctor or whatever are even sadder.

Thankfully most people can still tell the difference between the plot of a TV drama and reasonable behaviour in the workplace.

or at least, I hope most people can.

Pretty sure all those TV shag plotlines ended in disaster anyway? Bodies definitely did, loads of dead patients, pretty much everyone shamed and excluded from the profession