NHS workers ‘filmed having sex at children’s hospital’

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I suppose this is bringing your whole self to work.

Defending his lifestyle, the OnlyFans user posted last month: “I will not be made to feel any different just because I record my sex.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bfc9a121-b58c-4555-bb03-1925ad0defa3?shareToken=e2a30f39b65b46398285cd599dd7f81a

OnlyFans pays peanuts mate, it’s a pyramid scheme.

Yes, but if you're really struggling then peanuts is good money.

And yet, whether it has happened or it didn't, the discussion is still worthy here because of just this possibility.

I am genuinely not sure why it is important to you to keep pointing out that it is 'alleged'. How does that change the fact that it could happen and if it does happen, what should happen next? Many cases discussed on discussion boards are exploring 'alleged' cases.

Why is this case so important that you keep popping up to tell us it is 'alleged'? Will we ever get proof it happened ? If the NHS trust deals with it and it is not proven, does that mean it still didn't happen? If it DID happen, is it ok for us then to discuss it in your view?

I think it's a 'that never happened' response.

Last I heard, hospital workers could pick up extra shifts to make more money, instead of getting paid peanuts to film themselves having sex in a children's hospital.

I don't understand why you're defending OF. Are you a user, or a "content creator"?

I remember posters telling us it was all just 'alleged' and that discussing the WiSpa issue was just hateful. Look how that worked out.

Neither, I'm just engaging in the wider discussion about why someone in a stable job may get involved in something like this.

Not when it results in your being fired from your actual job.

Sorry, but your arguments are just nonsensical. @Flickersy

I'm not sure two posts saying "we don't actually know yet" constitutes "keeping popping up". Nor does it mean it can't be discussed.

Correct language is important, as we all know.

Because they get a kick out of it. They get their 15 minutes of fame. I don’t know if you’ve been online in the past 10 years but it seems everyone wants to be an influencer. Some do that by cleaning their house with an audience others by selling their kink. Welcome to the 2020s!

great. Fill your boots. We will just keep discussing it regardless.

Good for you. I never said you couldn't or shouldn't.

Porno Pryamid Scheme LOL 😆

But yes, that's exactly what Only Fans is. Suckering low paid or poor and desperate people in with BS stories about 'housewife makes millions' and exploitative pieces from thick, uneducated or abused and damaged minor celebs like Daniella Westbrook or Kerry Katona saying how great it is and how much they're making, despite constantly being in the papers for being bankrupt etc.

Amazes me people get sucked in. Most people can get shifts in a pub or coffee shop for extra income. People with mh issues can appeal to charities. Food banks are available for people really in a bad place. Nobody needs to sell sex and degrade themselves.

Opiate for the masses.

Dirty sods. They should both get fired.

Yes. Let's let people with really poor judgement and a sex addiction problem film and show their porn in the workplace as they work with children. I mean, only silly pearl clutchy prudes could mind, right? What could realistically go wrong?

It's like worrying that letting poor vulnerable women wrongly assigned male at birth with a history of very serious sex offending into women's prisons will end badly for other women. Pattern recognition, the capacity to link ideas together and basic common sense is just a stupid idea for stupid people left in the past who'll all be dead soon.

This is what happens when society is told anything goes and anyone who objects is tarred as being bigoted. We reap what we sow so why are we surprised.

You know, I don't think that's irrelevant.

Popular culture has totally normalized this kind of behaviour. I am sure there are people who have watched these shows since they were teens and take it for granted that it's pretty normal adult behaviour, if a little dramatized.

Things like Friends, Sex in the City - all of these shows portray sex as extremely transactional and with few boundaries. Everyone is changing partners all the time. And it's the same or worse on television now.

In addition, children in school have been taught for years that they shouldn't be ashamed or made to feel "differernt" for their sexual desires. That everyone should be accepted for who they are which includes what kind of sex they happen to like.

It's now even a common belief that if something is a regular sexual practice among some gay men, being "non-inclusive" about it is homophobic - as with the RubberWankMan. We should all be down with anonymous chemsex as a healthy expression of sexuality.

So, yeah, of course you are going to get people who think this way, or the way RubberWankMan thought. It's what they've been taught, explicitly and implicitly, their whole lives.

While it's reassuring to see so many posters condemning the alleged action, the 'yeah but, poor them' attitude of posters like flickersy has really worried me, and if they think like that will others? Especially when the staff members stated they'll take requests for 'whatever' photos. So now we'll be hit harder by the cost of living as I don't want to leave my baby unattended at all on next admission, so my husband will need to take unpaid leave to come and our older child will have to go and stay elsewhere with relatives.
But yay, he's getting to be his true self and its of course the only way he could make any extra earnings.

Could anyone from nhs please advise if they'd know if i put something on careopinion would it be acknowledged?

You realise I said in my second post that they should be fired if it's true?

My attitude is not "poor them", my attitude is "hang on, we don't know if this has been confirmed yet".

Your attitude is 'poor them' and how the cost of living is likely to blame for his actions.
Do you have any idea what it is like to hand over a 6 month old baby for surgery, and be told 'we'll see you in about 2 hours', and have to walk out of an operating theatre after lying them down for a general anaesthetic, and the trust and faith you have to have in these people?
If its only possibly true, who's the person complaining in a post above about the video being taken from the Web and people not paying for it.

My post about cost of living was part of a wider discussion about why someone might do this sort of thing.

I don't have a "poor them" attitude. If it's true, they should be fired. But facts need to be established first. Quite rightly, you can't fire someone based on gossip and innuendo.

No. You just nitpicked my post because you felt the need to correct me when it was really irrelevant. I understand completely.

You don't think whether it's true or not is relevant?