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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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FatFilledTrottyPuss · 29/08/2023 21:18

Bloody hell I only managed about half of that. It’s terrifyingly deranged.

whathaveiforgottentoday · 29/08/2023 21:59

Shocking. Reads like it's written by somebody in year 8

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 22:04

So this is what the poor dears who hide behind multiple umbrellas at LWS events amount to.

Rightsraptor · 29/08/2023 22:05

It's insane.

I can't see a date anywhere. It's jubilant about the original Forstater decision, so how it must have pained them when she won on appeal 😀

SpicyMoth · 29/08/2023 22:25

Not even past the first sentence!
Since when did it become "Trans exclusionary regressive fascists" of all things?!
At least the previous made some actual sense 😂

nauticant · 29/08/2023 22:29

There's a date in the URL Rightsraptor: 2020/05/27

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/08/2023 22:35

There's always a Twat With A Guitar, isn't there?

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 29/08/2023 23:14

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/08/2023 22:35

There's always a Twat With A Guitar, isn't there?

I laughed really unkindly at this Blush

Ahem.

back to OP. Kind of these people to lay out their strategy.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 29/08/2023 23:32

re: Mich Fest….isn’t that the festival which was connected to the murder of three people , a same sex female and their nineteen year old som by an irate TW?

HirplesWithHaggis · 30/08/2023 00:04

What struck me about it is that it describes exactly what happened to the SNP. Infiltrated at branch level, they ended up taking over the NEC and completely changing the agenda of the party. Obviously Sturgeon was complicit, but to see it all written out in plain view...

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HirplesWithHaggis · 30/08/2023 00:05

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 29/08/2023 23:32

re: Mich Fest….isn’t that the festival which was connected to the murder of three people , a same sex female and their nineteen year old som by an irate TW?

Yes.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2022/11/16/whats-current-trans-activist-dana-rivers-found-guilty-of-triple-murder/

What's Current: Trans activist, Dana Rivers, found guilty of triple murder

What's Current is Feminist Current's daily news roundup.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2022/11/16/whats-current-trans-activist-dana-rivers-found-guilty-of-triple-murder

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donquixotedelamancha · 30/08/2023 00:14

I think this is the third thread about this particular deranged rant. In other pieces the writer calls for the execution of all landlords and says that only victims of sexual assault with the correct political views should be believed- amongst other gems.

re: Mich Fest….isn’t that the festival which was connected to the murder of three people , a same sex female and their nineteen year old som by an irate TW?

Yes. In fairness the author does cover extreme violence as a viable strategy for 'persuading' women to behave towards the end of the 'article'.

HirplesWithHaggis · 30/08/2023 00:49

Sorry, I hadn't seen other threads about this. I just came across it randomly today and thought it summed up how they actually do it.

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Boiledbeetle · 30/08/2023 01:18

Spoiler alert, for those who can't manage the increasingly insane vibes each paragraph gives of, here is the conclusion

What should you do to counter the presence of TERF’s in your area? First, make a parallel organization that makes theirs redundant. Out-compete them. At the same time, infiltrate and take over their group from the inside to reform it into an actual feminist organization. If that’s not possible, go after their money however you can.

If they still refuse to cease spreading hate, begin direct action. Online, shut down their means of communication by deplatforming them from social media. Use doxxing to remove their anonymity so they have to own whatever vile things they say. In the real world, deny them advertising. Shut them out of safe spaces. Make their employers aware who they are and what they’ve said so they’re terminated. If absolutely necessary, escalate further into tagging vehicles, destructive disruptions, and, finally, making them take responsibility for harming others by reflecting that harm at their personal selves.

TERF’s like to portray themselves as the victims when you discuss protecting the community from their hate. They like to pretend that any kind of action against them is “violence against women.” This is false equivalence, an attempt to hijack the language of revolution for their evil ends.

When Richard Spencer was punched on live television, that wasn’t “violence against men” — it was action against fascism. If you take signs from TERF’s trying to insert messages of hate at a Pride Parade, that’s not “violence against women” — it’s action against bigots. When someone chooses to be a fascist they surrender any consideration you need to have for their dignity, possessions, or health — because they have chosen to have no regard for yours. The imperative to punch Nazis is always in place, regardless of what sex the Nazi is.

A fascist can always choose to peacefully change their ways and rejoin the community as a decent human being, which ends any need to treat them with hostility. But when TERF’s go after trans women and others, they don’t stop their harassment until the target is dead. This is why you are justified using any of the strategies outlined above when opposing their kind.

😳

OhcantthInkofaname · 30/08/2023 03:49

Tripe. Simply wanting women's spaces to be for biological women only isn't fascism.

Woman2023 · 30/08/2023 07:08

I don't think I've read this before. It does explain some of the aggression from the TRAs if they are reading this nonsense and not realising that it's an anti-human rights manifesto itself.

When you find yourself advocating violence towards a peaceful group you should realise you've messed up somewhere with your "anti-fascism".

WarriorN · 30/08/2023 07:26

There's always a lie in the first sentence with these things.

And that's how they dupe people.

It's total propaganda.

I bet Lucy worsely is a terf as she'd spot allllll the lies.

HirplesWithHaggis · 30/08/2023 07:55

Oh, I love Lucy Worsely!

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LadyMadderLake · 30/08/2023 07:57

It’s horrible and scary, but also so bizarrely unnecessary. Set up a parallel organisation - yes please do! If women want to set up a menopause support group or a lesbian bar etc for women only, yes you can also have an all-inclusive one for transwomen and women who want to share with them. That’s fine! Just as TW-only spaces and support orgs are fine.

It’s the very opposite of “going after TW” to have a female only space. TW could get on with their lives and not have their maleness pointed out to them if they just left women alone to associate and organise freely. (As some of course do, and kudos to them.) All this hate and threats is pure vengeance and bitterness that there exist groups and spaces that aren’t about them.

the idea that if you set up a parallel group for everyone, it would make a female-only group redundant! Have they met women? The two groups would serve entirely different needs and could both thrive in a sane world.

As for guitar twat, I looked at that pic and immediately thought, hmmm who’s being centred in that pic then? Males that’s who.

RebelliousCow · 30/08/2023 08:22

Like others have said, utterly deranged.......the fever dream of an Intel.

Laura Izaguire ( the author):

I’m a cis gender neurodivergent queer Latinx trying to find her authentic self. I’m all about supporting others who are on the same journey. I am sex positive and kink positive. Trans women are women, sex work is work, and fascism is a real and omnipresent threat.
I am new to the political commentary scene and still have a lot to learn, but I do my best to propel what is right forward in my writing. My main focuses are on queer topics related to the LGBTQ community, social justice, and exposing hate groups.
I am apparently infamous among TERF circles for scaring the shit out of them. Good! All fascists should be afraid all the time.
Punch Nazi’s.
Fuck TERF’s.
Resist Hate.

RebelliousCow · 30/08/2023 08:23

incel

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 30/08/2023 08:39

I am apparently infamous among TERF circles for scaring the shit out of them.

Never heard of her, to be honest.

Rightsraptor · 30/08/2023 08:42

Thanks, @nauticant - I hadn't noticed the date there.

Rightsraptor · 30/08/2023 08:48

I've never heard of her either. I expect she's a screaming narcissist if she thinks we all know of her.

PriOn1 · 30/08/2023 08:58

And this is where “live and let live” and “there’s only twelve of them” (to quote Nish Kumar - inspired by other recent threads) falls down.

Because it only takes a few extremists like this one to do huge amounts of damage to women’s rights over many organizations. And these extremists types are not so uncommon.