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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ugh and wow

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porridgeisbae · 17/08/2023 20:08

Stopped for a pint at a bar- looked in the garden and there was some crusty scabby guy with a couple of others so I decided not to sit through there.

Had to go through there to use the loo after a bit and this bloke, with dreds and a tattoo on his forehead, was in the lady's loos. I wish I'd confronted him.

I assume he thinks having long dreds makes him a woman. Envy

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porridgeisbae · 18/08/2023 12:50

What we used to call a Crusty. Smile But he wasn't that, probably even more fringe.

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porridgeisbae · 18/08/2023 12:53

I'd say he was in his late 30s or something, not a teenager who might naturally go through that look without it necessarily signifying much.

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LoveThisUsername · 18/08/2023 13:09

Is red hair a signifier of drug use now?

As I said before, the underlying prejudices on thisi thread is astounding.

CaramelMac · 18/08/2023 13:15

I see the professionally offended are out in force today 🙄

Codlingmoths · 18/08/2023 13:19

Actually I’m professionally very easy to get along with. It’s a funny thing, in my work and regular life standing by my beliefs doesn’t mean I have to throw ethnic minorities and cultural differences to the dogs. Actually here too, but sometimes it brings out the snide little name callers.

porridgeisbae · 18/08/2023 13:23

Yawn.

I have red hair but I don't have dreds. We all know that dreds in a Caucasian person is a sign they're either a druggie or (to give them the benefit of the doubt) just Crusty/indie, or both.

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porridgeisbae · 18/08/2023 13:23

I'm bored now.

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Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 18/08/2023 13:36

This is potentially one of the most ridiculously derailed threads ever 😂

Why the bloody hell was he in there should be the question on everyone's lips!

I would be more intimidated by a white bloke with face tattoos washing himself in the ladies loos than one without face tattoos.

But only a bit.

It's far more the penis having between his legs and what him being in there says about his mentality.

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 18/08/2023 13:36

Hanging

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 18/08/2023 13:44

porridgeisbae · 18/08/2023 12:49

Like Maori for example? I'm assuming you aren't Maori but it's okay for you to decide this somehow?

No, of course neither I nor the previous poster were talking about that. Those markings are somewhat normal in their culture so don't have the same meaning that a face tattoo does in the West.

People can have all sorts of reasons to get a face tattoo in the West (aside from ethnic subcultures of course) but it is eccentric in the West and can signify/be interpreted as various things.

But neither the poster or I were talking about ethnic groups, as you well know.

More to the point the OP mentioned the man in question having dreads, which may have been locs and therefore a potential to be from a culture more associated with facial tattoos.

No, it was clearly a completely white guy (with an over 90% likelihood) and they were not the sort of dreds a person of another race would have- I know what those dreds are worn like as I live in a very ethnically diverse suburb (but was visiting another suburb for this incident.) They were dyed flaming red, like a druggie or crusty would have. Black British or other people from minority ethnic groups are also less likely to get a face tattoo in the UK in my experience. I also know what a Crusty looks like when it comes to hair- I used to be into subcultures a bit like that in my teens/early 20s.

What a waste of several paragraphs.

But neither the poster or I were talking about ethnic groups, as you well know.

No I don't well know as you didn't say

But thank you for assuming I could read your mind 🙄

You said facial tattoos are Definitely not a good idea for anyone.

If you meant anybody white, you probably should have made it clear you didn't mean anybody, just a subset of anybody

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 18/08/2023 13:46

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ILoveToads · 18/08/2023 13:57

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 18/08/2023 13:36

This is potentially one of the most ridiculously derailed threads ever 😂

Why the bloody hell was he in there should be the question on everyone's lips!

I would be more intimidated by a white bloke with face tattoos washing himself in the ladies loos than one without face tattoos.

But only a bit.

It's far more the penis having between his legs and what him being in there says about his mentality.

I haven't seen anyone say he should be in there.

Comments like OP's about dreads and face tattoos are offensive and should be called out by those who are offended by then.

Just because we agree on one issue doesn't mean we will agree on everything.

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:29

Hahaha fucking hell! This thread is ridiculous.

The OP was clear. If the man had a Maori face tattoo I think she would have mentioned it.

If you couldn't follow the description then maybe you are the one who is culturally ignorant? If you're British and working class you would get it easily. Maybe you need to educate yourself on British working class culture?

OP, sorry your thread has been so laughably derailed. The guy sounds like a psycho and no way should he have been in the women's loos. It sounds like a scary experience tbh.

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:32

Comments like OP's about dreads and face tattoos are offensive and should be called out by those who are offended by then.

Sure. 'Call out' when you're offended. Even if it means missing the entire point of the thread and twisting everyone's words so that you can 'call them out' some more.

Very privileged position to be in, to be monitoring other people's speech for anything you can 'call out'. Do you work?

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 18/08/2023 19:43

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:29

Hahaha fucking hell! This thread is ridiculous.

The OP was clear. If the man had a Maori face tattoo I think she would have mentioned it.

If you couldn't follow the description then maybe you are the one who is culturally ignorant? If you're British and working class you would get it easily. Maybe you need to educate yourself on British working class culture?

OP, sorry your thread has been so laughably derailed. The guy sounds like a psycho and no way should he have been in the women's loos. It sounds like a scary experience tbh.

Everybody in the world (because the Internet is world wide as is MN) needs to educate themselves on British working class culture?

I think I called it right with the western centric view point...

PinkFrogss · 18/08/2023 19:52

This thread is certainly an interesting read after such confidence on another thread that all racist posts on the feminist board were actually left by people pretending to be feminists to make the board look bad.

Probably showing my age here but I have no idea what crusty means in relation to a person!

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:58

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beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:59

PinkFrogss · 18/08/2023 19:52

This thread is certainly an interesting read after such confidence on another thread that all racist posts on the feminist board were actually left by people pretending to be feminists to make the board look bad.

Probably showing my age here but I have no idea what crusty means in relation to a person!

Where's the racism?

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 18/08/2023 20:01

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PinkFrogss · 18/08/2023 20:11

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:59

Where's the racism?

In the posts that have already been challenged by posters before me, and I imagine in at least one or two of the many deleted posts on this thread.

ILoveToads · 18/08/2023 20:48

beastlyslumber · 18/08/2023 19:32

Comments like OP's about dreads and face tattoos are offensive and should be called out by those who are offended by then.

Sure. 'Call out' when you're offended. Even if it means missing the entire point of the thread and twisting everyone's words so that you can 'call them out' some more.

Very privileged position to be in, to be monitoring other people's speech for anything you can 'call out'. Do you work?

This is circular now, you are using a phase I used. Calling out" which was non-offensive, if maybe a bit annoying, and not one I usually use. Then telling me I am monitoring other people’s speech.

Yes, I work. What are you actually asking in this question?

ILoveToads · 18/08/2023 21:22

To add, part of the reason this thread annoyed me so much is that this man should not have been in the female toilets.

The comments about his appearance deflect from the real issue and gives ammunition to those who already think such views are bigoted.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/08/2023 01:29

Where's the racism?

TBF the thread is like Swiss cheese with all the deletions!

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