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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sharron Davies 3pm today, Times Radio!

41 replies

MorrisZapp · 10/08/2023 13:22

Well this is going to be interesting! Jane and Fi on Times Radio have been pretty smug and terrible on gender issues thus far.

But Sharron is simply a wall of facts, reason and humanity. They can't argue... or can they? I'm tuning in 😊

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JulesJules · 10/08/2023 15:09

Just came on here to say this, yes agree OP, it should be interesting ... they are saying it's COMPLICATED, and Jane says "Sharron is coming at this from a very particular place" following her experiences competing against East German doping

BellaAmorosa · 10/08/2023 15:51

JulesJules · 10/08/2023 15:09

Just came on here to say this, yes agree OP, it should be interesting ... they are saying it's COMPLICATED, and Jane says "Sharron is coming at this from a very particular place" following her experiences competing against East German doping

Implying that Sharron is unfairly biased because of her experience. Priming the audience to dismiss what she says as prejudice.

Do post updates if you are listening and you have time.

Toseland · 10/08/2023 16:24

I've just listened to this and Sharron was absolutely amazing, I'm in awe!
I'm also quite depressed that "But if women just trained a bit harder" came up - from 2 women - dear god how stupid! Sharron told brilliant stories about how when she broke her arms and her leg (in separate instances) her Dad strapped the limbs to her by wrapping her in cling film and she still trained!

MorrisZapp · 10/08/2023 16:28

Sharron was superb, the interviewer didn't even try to refute any points. She laughed out loud at 'train harder' and spoke at length about the abuse she receives compared to that men like Daley Thomson.

The follow up tweets were all supportive.

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BellaAmorosa · 10/08/2023 16:30

MorrisZapp · 10/08/2023 16:28

Sharron was superb, the interviewer didn't even try to refute any points. She laughed out loud at 'train harder' and spoke at length about the abuse she receives compared to that men like Daley Thomson.

The follow up tweets were all supportive.

Great. Sharron is so reliable, her explanations are very clear. This is progress, isn't it, is SD was featured without a gender zealot in opposition? Or perhaps the hosts were the gender zealots in this case...

BellaAmorosa · 10/08/2023 16:31

*if SD was featured

JulesJules · 10/08/2023 16:35

Yes, Sharron came across really well. Jane seemed to be saying that her own daughters think differently to her on this and was there a generational element and Sharron said that she spoke to young female athletes and coaches who agree with her. She said that there is a lot of pressure on women to "be kind" but no-one expected men to say "be kind" to Lance Armstrong, he only doped a bit etc.

The interview, or part of it will be repeated in their podcast available tonight, or it's probably available on catch up.

Lottapianos · 10/08/2023 16:36

'I'm also quite depressed that "But if women just trained a bit harder" came up - from 2 women - dear god how stupid!'

I didn't listen today but I've heard that Fi and Jane are pathetic on this issue. Surely they can't listen to Sharron and carry on with their stupidity?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/08/2023 16:58

Lottapianos · 10/08/2023 16:36

'I'm also quite depressed that "But if women just trained a bit harder" came up - from 2 women - dear god how stupid!'

I didn't listen today but I've heard that Fi and Jane are pathetic on this issue. Surely they can't listen to Sharron and carry on with their stupidity?

Meh, this issue turns intelligent, sensitive, once women focussed women into fucking idiots.
They dribble inanities, become incapable of applying their once razor sharp intellectual / critical thinking skills and presumably have to drink copious amounts of gin to hide from themselves how utterly vapid thinking they've become.

It's tragic to behold.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 10/08/2023 17:42

She said that there is a lot of pressure on women to "be kind" but no-one expected men to say "be kind" to Lance Armstrong, he only doped a bit etc.

She is marvellous.

OvaHere · 10/08/2023 18:01

I've just started reading Sharron's book. It's really interesting. I recommend buying a copy to anyone who appreciates her work.

Violetparis · 10/08/2023 18:33

Sharron was excellent, Jane and Fi didn't seem to have any counter arguements at all. I liked Sharron saying that it was a Men's Rights Movement and that men would never put up with women taking over their spaces, achievements etc.

JulesJules · 10/08/2023 18:48

open.spotify.com/episode/51U7Sz8vi90jWqREFayijy?si=TYqglHOlQvuNX3QzJRRJXA

The podcast edition is on Spotify now

334bu · 10/08/2023 18:51

Another excellent interview from Sharron.

Lottapianos · 10/08/2023 19:10

'I've just started reading Sharron's book. It's really interesting. I recommend buying a copy to anyone who appreciates her work.'

Definitely will, thanks for the tip 👍

Gothambutnotahamster · 10/08/2023 19:38

I'm on holiday so can't listen, but glad it sounds like she was impressive as always. She really is great with this. What's her book called as I'll buy it simply to support her?

borntobequiet · 10/08/2023 20:10

Gothambutnotahamster · 10/08/2023 19:38

I'm on holiday so can't listen, but glad it sounds like she was impressive as always. She really is great with this. What's her book called as I'll buy it simply to support her?

It’s called Unfair Play: The Battle for Women’s Sport and it’s a very good read. Craig Lord co-authors with Sharron.

JulesJules · 10/08/2023 21:21

www.instagram.com/reel/CvxZrkRIvFA/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Clip of the interview on Instagram

Datun · 10/08/2023 21:54

How can people be so stupid.

Do they not understand that men are built differently?? With bigger hearts, bigger lung capacity. Different bone configuration. Not carting around a uterus. Not sloughing blood once a month.

It's not a question of bloody training.

If it was a question of training, do they honestly think that women wouldn't just train harder.

is it because we're too lazy? 🤣

JanesLittleGirl · 10/08/2023 22:39

Datun · 10/08/2023 21:54

How can people be so stupid.

Do they not understand that men are built differently?? With bigger hearts, bigger lung capacity. Different bone configuration. Not carting around a uterus. Not sloughing blood once a month.

It's not a question of bloody training.

If it was a question of training, do they honestly think that women wouldn't just train harder.

is it because we're too lazy? 🤣

It's all they're got so they have to keep pushing it.

MidCent · 10/08/2023 22:46

Fantastic that Radio Times had just a female speaker on to talk about female sports and didn't invite a male on to talk over her.
This is a step in the right direction!

Gothambutnotahamster · 10/08/2023 22:47

Thank you @borntobequiet

emsiewill · 11/08/2023 07:06

Just listened to this and very impressed with SD. I don't understand how anyone could argue with her and the science. Jane and Fi didn't even try (or only in a half hearted way with SD rebutting every feeble point they put across). Well done SD 👏🏻👏🏻

JulesJules · 11/08/2023 09:08

Watching the youtube edition of the interview was very interesting, compared to listening on the radio. I don't think the bit about the Rio Olympics (in answer to the q about Caster Semenya) was included in the radio edit. I may be wrong, but when I listened to it on the radio I thought that she hadn't really answered the question she was asked about Semenya. If that bit about XY 5ARD and the three medallists in the women's 800 at Rio was edited out it would be quite ironic as Sharron then said that you won't hear this or find it reported. 😁

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