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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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FairyKindleMother · 10/06/2023 12:37

Just having a quick break from turning books into e-books and catching up with the thread. Talk of named Kindles does make my heart sing, I'm all for people being attached to their Kindles, after all e-books are a wonderful way to read books. Biased, me? No! Not at all. @ScrambledSmegs give my love to Kevin. 😍

I'm really enjoying the new poems. 'The Sparking Path' by @Brokendaughter is wonderful.

KNOW MY PLACE

When I say no
It does not change
What you believe.
So why,
Do you say my disagreement
is enough to make you die?

I have the right to my beliefs
You have the right to yours
Why then, must I be silenced
An abuse of free speech laws?

What do you fear
When women speak?
If we're so frail
So less, so weak?
If we won't know our place
As you
Impose to say you're women too?

Right back to my e-book creating.

(Waves wand and disappears back into the depths of the internet)

Boiledbeetle · 10/06/2023 21:13

It was going to be actual woman in the first line, but magnificent felt more...truthful!😉

CLOSING ARGUMENTS

I am a magnificent woman. You are just a man.
Yes, you can do a lot of what a woman can.
But just because you change your name,
Your clothes and hair, like it’s a game,
You know no matter how hard you try
That it is all one big fat lie.
You will never ever be female.
That is the truth of this short tale.

We've added another e-book sale on to the total today which means we've sold 50 books so far this month!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Ourladycheesusedatum · 10/06/2023 21:40

Boiledbeetle · 10/06/2023 21:13

It was going to be actual woman in the first line, but magnificent felt more...truthful!😉

CLOSING ARGUMENTS

I am a magnificent woman. You are just a man.
Yes, you can do a lot of what a woman can.
But just because you change your name,
Your clothes and hair, like it’s a game,
You know no matter how hard you try
That it is all one big fat lie.
You will never ever be female.
That is the truth of this short tale.

We've added another e-book sale on to the total today which means we've sold 50 books so far this month!

I live in faith that the wider MN massive will see this one day and also buy a copy. Can you imagine. I think theres around 12 million users. If most of them bought a book it would be huge.

Boiledbeetle · 10/06/2023 22:10

@Ourladycheesusedatum If that was to happen I'd be really pissed all the profit was going to charity!😁 imagine seeing those sorts of figures in your bank account and knowing you had to transfer it to someone else.

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ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 14:55

If ye’ve been a-swickin
They’ll come a-nickin
Wha kens whit’s a-hatchin
But we are a-watchin
Are folk noo a-gloatin
Aifter a’ that showboatin’

An’ Isla’s in a giddy state
A-hopin for a new cell mate
Tae share thon pink trews
For here is the news.

Gaun yersel polis…

Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 14:57

Pride is no place for homosexuals The gay community has better things to do BY SIMON EDGE
^unherd.com/2023/06/pride-is-no-place-for-homosexuals/^

"Those of us who insist that the trans movement can be homophobic, because it encourages young people to think they were born in the wrong sex if they are gay or lesbian, have found ourselves marginalised. Told by Pride organisers that we will be thrown out — in the name of inclusion, obviously"

Read the article, then wrote this

CUCKOO

There are cuckoos in the nest.
That are stoking the unrest.
So bloody insistent that the LGB
Join up and partner with the ubiquitous T.

Just at the point of being equal,
And accepted as just regular people,
The cuckoos, they came along,
Declared that people were wrong.

That sexual attraction is not based on your sex,
Apparently, it’s really much much more complex.
It’s now all about the gender feels,
Despite whatever undressing reveals.

Insisting a son can now be a daughter.
That’s what the teachers at school have taught her!
That a person’s genitals need no checks,
And it matters not if you’re XY or XX.

Just because she fancies women,
And not the men who want to be them,
She’s now seen as being homophobic,
Just because she won’t suck a man’s dick.

The T have managed to push the LGB out,
Whilst claiming all their political clout.
They’ve even claimed to throw the first stone,
And have taken the spoils for their selfish own.

They've forced on people a partnership,
Whilst all their words they've tried to strip.
Without bothering to try and find,
If any usurped would actually mind.

There are cuckoos in the nest.
That are stoking the unrest.
So bloody insistent that the LGB
Join up and partner with the ubiquitous T.

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Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 15:00

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 14:55

If ye’ve been a-swickin
They’ll come a-nickin
Wha kens whit’s a-hatchin
But we are a-watchin
Are folk noo a-gloatin
Aifter a’ that showboatin’

An’ Isla’s in a giddy state
A-hopin for a new cell mate
Tae share thon pink trews
For here is the news.

Gaun yersel polis…

ooh yours wasn't there when I started to write my post! My spell checker is going to despise you! 😂

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ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:12

For them’s that are Feminist and real
Did ye squeak or did ye squeal?
At the point fan ye were telt
Yer collar wiz gettin’ felt

Yer coupon was probably pinchy
Ye could be the new McGlinchy
In the company o’the feds
Interpretin’ for the neds.

MON THE POLIS.

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:14

Apologies Beetle

I can’t wait for the @RealFeminist to post.

Be still my throbbin wizened black heart 🖤

Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 15:23

Nicola Sturgeon arrested!

@ArcaneWireless I figured something had happened from your poems... I've now caught up!

Oh@RealFeminist have you been naughty? First your husband and now you. What's it like being in the clink?

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ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:29

SwickyNicky? 🤔

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:30

Somethin’ got me all distracted from ma hooverin beetle

Hence the very quickly and badly put together poem to mark the occasion. 😇

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:36

Not the picture showing - look for Rab….

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:36

Presseth the linky

Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 15:37

Police statement about the arrest

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 15:39

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:36

Presseth the linky

I wouldn't want to be responsible for doing the subtitles for that video 😂

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Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 15:45

22nd December 2022 Nicola Sturgeon throws the women of Scotland under a bus

11th June 2023 the police arrest Nicola Sturgeon!

Not even 6 months. Back at the end of December there is no way I ever imagined this is where we would be.

Not in my wildest imaginings!

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ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 15:52
Super Mario Wow GIF by Mashed

We can only wait to see what transpires beetle

Until then I shall reserve judgement. But I will agree that I never saw the events of the last few months coming.

Heid spin.

Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 16:19

https://twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1667911799486726144?s=19

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Ourladycheesusedatum · 11/06/2023 16:37

Wow, you've come a long way boiled.

Infamous now.

Waitwhat23 · 11/06/2023 17:51

Someone has done a poem for poor wee Nicola -

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1667936348701966338

ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 17:55

Weeping with jkr.

I haven’t been this moved since the syrup of fig incident. 🥲

Beautiful.

Boiledbeetle · 11/06/2023 17:58

I couldn't resist

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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ArcaneWireless · 11/06/2023 17:58

She’s oot.

That poem on Twitter did the job.

Hankies at the ready…. Prime tear ducts. Go!!!!

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