A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

[Boiledbeetle]

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

Cool.

FUCKSAKE NO NEED TAE SHOUT

Hello! You summoned me, @Boiledbeetle!! Didn't know there was a second volume happening but that's great :) Awesome work!

well, you did write this on thread one - and it would be rude not to include it. after all tis a work of beauty!

beastlyslumber · 13/04/2023 10:13

Amazing!

Bloody
Obstinate
Intrepid
Loudmouth
Entrepreneurial
Delight

Bookselling
Endlessly
Entertaining
Tomes
Like an
Entirely awesome being!

Hahaha yes! Would be very rude not to!

Happy dance!

Woohoo!

Here Miss

Also checking in!
Well done @Boiledbeetle - such a great tribute to Magdalen.

Just ticking off names on my list!

I'm working up to actually doing things on the book, so thought I'd ease my way in slowly this morning with the admin bits of it. I'm still recovering from my weekend of of Scotlanding!

I will also be assuming anyone who is on the list, doesn't comment but presses the thanks button as a confirmation.

Please don't make me chase you round Mumsnet to see if you are still OK being in it.

I can do it using assumed copyright consent (you posted on a thread about a book about a thread - you had to know which way this was always going to turn out!),

However, given the subject matter I would be happier knowing each of you are still happy to proceed. so the less of you I have to badger by stalking you around the boards the quicker the book will be in your hands.

If anyone wants their poem in but either under a different username or 'Username withheld' please let me know and I can get it changed.

Confirmed!

Excellent news!

Thank you 😊

Another one checking in - yay!

Sorry, I was in the loo.

It's yes from me.

I'm definitely saying yes.

I wandered lonely a TERF...

until I met a load of like minded women and now we will be in a book together!

Woohoo! Can't wait!

Yes from me? If my Mum says I can!

@GingerbreadCookieDough of course!

And this is why I check! I knew I'd missed poems! Like this brilliant one from LarkLane off the Billy Bragg thread.

LarkLane · 12/09/2023 22:33

Gender critical women raise their voices
Our concerns and questions, our safe space choices
Billy labels us as transphobic foes
Misrepresents views, untruths he sows

Billy Bragg tries to shut us down
Ignores concerns with sarcastic frown
He's for Inclusion, if it's woman face
His views on feminists so misplaced

We seek to protect Women's Rights and spaces
To question "gender" in various cases
Yet Bragg's stupidity clouds his sight
To put it simply, he's talking shite.

Yes - I'm very excited and thank you for all your hard work 😀

Confirming that I'm in!

And adding my thanks to you, Boiled, for all your hard work

You know there's nothing new about any of this.

I give you

Alice Duer Miller, (1874- 1942) who wrote

ARE WOMEN PEOPLE? A BOOK OF RHYMES FOR SUFFRAGE TIMES

Which included:

FEMINISM

"Mother, what is a Feminist?"
"A Feminist, my daughter,
Is any woman now who cares
To think about her own affairs
As men don't think she oughter.

she even wrote a poem about pockets in the style of the anti suffragists

“WHY WE OPPOSE POCKETS FOR WOMEN”:

1. Because pockets are not a natural right.
2. Because the great majority of women do not want pockets. If they did they would have them.
3. Because whenever women have had pockets they have not used them.
4. Because women are required to carry enough things as it is, without the additional burden of pockets.
5. Because it would make dissension between husband and wife as to whose pockets were to be filled.
6. Because it would destroy man’s chivalry toward woman, if he did not have to carry all her things in his pockets.
7. Because men are men, and women are women. We must not fly in the face of nature.
8. Because pockets have been used by men to carry tobacco, pipes, whiskey flasks, chewing gum and compromising letters. We see no reason to suppose that women would use them more wisely.

Thankin’ thee x

Bit moash 🥲