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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

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Boiledbeetle · 29/05/2023 23:25

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 15:44

'Unbridled', a new anthology of poetry by women, edited by the wonderful Magi Gibson

And I appear in it and I didn't have to make it myself, which is novel!

The book launch is 30th September in Glasgow.

Tickets are available here:
https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/unbridled-book-launch-party-tickets-712029789267?aff=oddtdtcreator…

I will be performing my one poem (of course I kept all the best ones (!!) for volume two of UTDOD!) in full Tunnocks ninja outfit - unless anyone has a better disguise.... it's that or the Merkin Lady's Vulva outfit!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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ArabellaScott · 04/09/2023 15:56

Brilliant, beetle!

Confusingly, I'm now envisaging a Teacake with a vag.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 16:16

Oh great, now I am as well😳

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 16:16

This is as far as I've got!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2
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GingerbreadCookieDough · 04/09/2023 17:16

WELCOME TO WOMANHOOD

"You say you’re a woman
Yet you have no idea what it’s like to be one

Would you like to be…

Harassed
Bullied
Used
Raped
Kidnapped
Shamed
Abused
Ridiculed
Mocked
Assaulted
Accused
Trafficked
Prostituted
Murdered
Imprisoned
Belittled
Intimidated
Enslaved
Silenced
Disempowered
Badgered
Underestimated
Hated.

And the list goes on.
All because we were born with a vagina.
All because we have ovaries.

All because we are women."

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 17:18

And for those not reading the Tunnocks thread GingerbreadCookieDough is the next generation. She's @CervixSampler 14 year old daughter!

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CervixSampler · 04/09/2023 18:15

Proud mum moment 🥰

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 18:39

CervixSampler · 04/09/2023 18:15

Proud mum moment 🥰

well deserved moment!

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Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/09/2023 18:54

Ooh I been busy (not eating tunnocks, sorry tunnocks. Please make a low sugar version) and this thread has moved on, with relatives bustin in with more brilliant poems.
Book three is gonna be fabulous if we get our relatives on the case too.

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 19:02

Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/09/2023 18:54

Ooh I been busy (not eating tunnocks, sorry tunnocks. Please make a low sugar version) and this thread has moved on, with relatives bustin in with more brilliant poems.
Book three is gonna be fabulous if we get our relatives on the case too.

Book three is gonna be fabulous if we get our relatives on the case too.

Book three? you what know???????????

looks at the pile of A4 paper that hasn't moved all week day that will hopefully if I wish hard enough magically turn itself into a fully formed book two without any input from me whatsoever

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Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/09/2023 20:17

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 19:02

Book three is gonna be fabulous if we get our relatives on the case too.

Book three? you what know???????????

looks at the pile of A4 paper that hasn't moved all week day that will hopefully if I wish hard enough magically turn itself into a fully formed book two without any input from me whatsoever

Edited

I'm pretty sure there will be a book three, when, I'm not so clear on.
I also reckon itll be a best seller, top of the New York times list or the warrington guardian at least

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 20:29

Ourladycheesusedatum · 04/09/2023 20:17

I'm pretty sure there will be a book three, when, I'm not so clear on.
I also reckon itll be a best seller, top of the New York times list or the warrington guardian at least

So kind of you to volunteer you're services! And there's nothing wrong with being at the tp of the Warrington guardian list, beats the Chester chronicle!

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Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 20:30

Wonders if the Chester chronicle still actually exists?

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Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 20:32

Chester Chronicle is a local weekly newspaper distributed in Chester, Cheshire and North Wales. The first edition was published by founder John Poole on 2 May 1775. Editions are published every Thursday. In 2018, it had a circulation of 7,023.[2] In June 2019, its owners Reach plc closed the paper's Chester offices ending a 244-year association with the city, the decision was "to reduce costs and save jobs".[3] The newspaper editorial is now produced remotely and from newsdesks in Liverpool and Manchester.

Seems it fell on hard times!

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GingerbreadCookieDough · 04/09/2023 21:51

“Roll your skirt down”

Why do you care?
Why does the length of my skirt bother you?
Can you tell me why?

No you can’t. Because if you did, it would prove you’re all just sick paedos who sexualise CHILDREN.

The question is, where do you draw the line? A literal line. The answer is simple. If it’s so short it shows your arse then fair enough, roll it down. But otherwise, what’s the issue? There’s nothing sexual about my legs.
So fuck off :)

CervixSampler · 05/09/2023 18:23

My Dd has a couple more to offer:

“Don’t cry like a girl”
“Girls like pink”
“That’s for boys”
“No you can’t have that”
“Girls are weak”
“You can’t beat me, you’re a girl”
“Boys will be boys”
“Blue is for boys”
“Girls can’t play football”
“Boys are better”

10 things I guarantee every girl will hear in her childhood.

And:

What to wear? What to wear?

What about this skirt? No. Too short. I’ll draw the wrong kind of attention.

Skinny jeans? No. They say I’m too fat for these.

How about this dress? No. It’s too revealing. They’ll call me a slut.

T-shirt? No. They’ll tell me to “try harder”.

This tops cute. No. They’ll tell me I don’t have the body for it.

I now sit in a mountain of clothes on my floor crying. I’ll just stay at home. In my comfortable pyjamas and blanket. Where I’m safe from the judgement.

I've not checked for any typos and age was typing on the train so there might be some. Ds had a few suggestions for her first one. He's 8 and is obviously paying attention. Good lad 🥰

GingerbreadCookieDough · 06/09/2023 08:07

“Don’t cry like a girl”
“Girls like pink”
“That’s for boys”
“No you can’t have that”
“Girls are weak”
“You can’t beat me, you’re a girl”
“Boys will be boys”
“Blue is for boys”
“Girls can’t play football”
“Boys are better”

10 things I guarantee every girl will hear in her childhood.

GingerbreadCookieDough · 06/09/2023 08:09

What to wear? What to wear?
What about this skirt? No. Too short. I’ll draw the wrong kind of attention.
Skinny jeans? No. They say I’m too fat for these.
How about this dress? No. It’s too revealing. They’ll call me a slut.
T-shirt? No. They’ll tell me to “try harder”.
This tops cute. No. They’ll tell me I don’t have the body for it.

I now sit in a mountain of clothes on my floor crying. I’ll just stay at home. In my comfortable pyjamas and blanket. Where I’m safe from the judgement.

Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2023 08:15

GingerbreadCookieDough:😍

At this rate you'll have your own chapter!

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CervixSampler · 06/09/2023 10:07

I see you angry little man
Calling us names with reckless abandon
While your handmaidens cheer from the sidelines
Urging you to hate on and on
Your Twitter is full of hate and spite
But you underestimate how much we will fight
Courage calls to courage
And our grandmother's daughters
Are proud to fight our slaughter
To fight for our daughters, our mothers, our nieces and granddaughters, our friends, our neighbours and even the women we don't like
Because they are women, female to the core
Whereas your core is rotten and a bore
You can only dream of being like us
While you try to throw us under the bus
But you will never have what it takes
You will only ever be an inferior fake.

CervixSampler · 06/09/2023 10:39

Little nod to Iron Maiden, one of my favourite bands.

Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2023 11:22

😘@CervixSampler although as I wouldn't know an Iron Maiden song if i fell over it you may have to give me more of a clue!

This book is going to be huge!! A much thicker tome than the last slim volume! (unless I reduce the font size to 6!)

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Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2023 11:24

Lalgarh · 05/09/2023 21:27

And that's just based on the relationship board, she'd have had a complete melt down if she'd ventured over to this board!

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CervixSampler · 07/09/2023 19:39

There you go @Boiledbeetle. Iron Maiden singing the song I've nodded to. Not their best but still. I have the 7" limited edition picture disc 😁

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